Our TV is now as fucked as our radio

[JustJon]

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TV and other media are now deregulated like radio was. We are all so fucked for information and news.

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[PanterA]

I must be severly retarded but I dont see the big deal. Someone please explain in a language a mental midget like myself can understand.

BTW all the wise asses that want to quote the "I must be severly retarded" part...

You're not funny. ;)

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[JustJon]

AJ, this just happened today.

It means that large conglomerates could buy up all local television stations. As it stands now, there's still cable/dish that'll keep the "quality" of regular tv up.

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[DarkHippie]

I must be severly retarded but I dont see the big deal. Someone please explain in a language a mental midget like myself can understand.
Potetnially, one person can own the majority of the media outlets in one region, monopolizing the airwaves with his/her ideas.

ie: who wants to marry a millionare on EVERY CHANNEL!!!!!!!!! (or news with the same slant *cough cough* FOX)

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[TheMojoPin]

How does Rupert Murdoch reconcile putting out a news channel that claims to be the bastion of "conservative integrity" (ie-all the shit that your parents told you to do and say that was lame and did not rawk...hey, suprise! You're now your parents.) and also having "regular" Fox and F/X, practically bastions of morality-free scum and children-influencing reality TV? Are the watchers of either channel just pretending like the other one doesn't exist? Are Hannity and Shepard Smith fans somehow unaware that their daily "stories" are essentially funded by "Temptation Island" and "World's Scariest Police Shoot-Outs" and "World's Sexiest Comemrcials"? And does it hurt to lie to yourself that hard from the very pit of your soul?

Sure, Turner, BBC and NBC put out plenty of awful, horrible shit themselves, but I mean, come ON. It's fucking Fox. Don't kid yourselves.

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[FiveB247]

You people are so funny. As if this all occured with one small regulation passing. This has gone on for decades and has been proven to be a serious issue of concern long before this recent ownership law was passed. Gee..I woke up today and everything was owned by a few conglomerates? Wake up and have a look around...it's been this way and is continuing to become more evident. Conglomerates are eating up smaller companies, growing in influence and power as well as keeping much of it out of the public light. That's not even to mention all the mergers that have shrunk the number of ownership in the US media.

Ps..Do you really think radio and tv can get any worse? I weep for the mindless viewers of crap on now...how could it possibly get any worse? I don't think that radio or tv could be dumb'ed down to any lessor value.

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[DrewP]

It means that large conglomerates could buy up all local television stations. As it stands now, there's still cable/dish that'll keep the "quality" of regular TV up


That's true. Look at Clear Channel after the terrorist attacks on September 11, they put out a list of songs that might be considered offensive as a result of the tragedy. Songs like "It's a Wonderful World" were banned. This is just retarded.

A few huge corporations are buying up all the stations and because they want to avoid competing with themselves all stations are now playing such a small variety of music.

Classic Rock stations are now playing 500 songs from 50 artists. AC is a joke all they play is crap.

When WNEW was playing music before the FM TALK shift, they couldn't play anything that was being played on K-Rock. O & A complained about constantly that the music sucked and ended up playing whatever they wanted. I love music, but I can't find a station that I want to listen too for more than 20 minutes. It's about as long as they go before playing something that has been played to death.

I used to say that satellite radio was the end of the world, but now I think Clear Channel, Infinity and such are forcing us in that direction.


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For being the #1 market, New York radio sucks. Aside from R & F and O & A, there is nothing worth listening to.

Now we have NOTHING!!!

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[TheMojoPin]

You people are so funny. As if this all occured with one small regulation passing. This has gone on for decades and has been proven to be a serious issue of concern long before this recent ownership law was passed. Gee..I woke up today and everything was owned by a few conglomerates? Wake up and have a look around...

Shut the fuck up, Sassy McNobodygivesashit.

That subscription to "The Nation" is cool and all, but there's no need to be a dick about it.

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[HBox]

You people are so funny. As if this all occured with one small regulation passing. This has gone on for decades and has been proven to be a serious issue of concern long before this recent ownership law was passed. Gee..I woke up today and everything was owned by a few conglomerates? Wake up and have a look around...


We all haven't totally given up. We are trying to stop it from getting worse.

[FiveB247]

Shut the fuck up, Sassy McNobodygivesashit.

That subscription to "The Nation" is cool and all, but there's no need to be a dick about it.

Mojo..what crawled up your ass tonight? Who's being a dick...me stating the obvious? And I don't read "the nation", I prefer "foreign affairs".

Ps..Where are these "new rules" for the board? Do they not apply to the "inner circle"?

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[JustJon]

When WNEW was playing music before the FM TALK shift, they couldn't play anything that was being played on K-Rock.
But that's also because WNEW's format was classic rock, not k-rock.

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[TheMojoPin]

Mojo..what crawled up your ass tonight? Who's being a dick...me stating the obvious? And I don't read "the nation", I prefer "foreign affairs".

Ps..Where are these "new rules" for the board? Do they not apply to the "inner circle"?

Five, it was an obnoxious dick of a post in a thread that was essentially agreeing with most of the corporate stuff you've been spouting all along. It simply served to stir up shit, which is apparently all you want to do lately in any of these politcal threads.

And this "inner circle" shit is REALLY getting ghey. This isn't a fucking cafeteria, and there's not a goddamn "cool table."

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[schmega]

Ps..Where are these "new rules" for the board? Do they not apply to the "inner circle"?

why dont you break it and let us know what happens?

the potential for this being a disaster is there. but i think our system of democracy and free enterprise is strong enough to break any hold the media conglomerates try to put on us. wishful thinking, yes. but i also believe those of use who look for information from as many sources as possible will continue to do so, finding the truth somewhere in the mess.

and the more i think about it, radio has always sounded homogenized. when has the general public not been told what to listen to? yet at the same time a bunch of us like music from a bunch of obscure artists that will never be really popular. i know for me, i actually make an effort LOOKING for good music, rather than turning on the radio and seeing what the big stations are playing. the only radio i look foward to listening to is WRHU 9-11pm weeknights. and in much the same way, those of us who want our different flavors of information and entertainment will continue to look for them in places most people wont.

still, this new fcc ruling, along with the one they made in february concerning telcos, just reeks of stupidity and corruption. has any good come from the fcc?

[spoon]

This has indeed been an awful trend over the last two decades. I believe it truly started with the likes of Ronnie and Nancy R. back in the eighties. I miss the diversity of radio, which there was with mom and pop owned stations, just as there used to be little hardware stores before Home Depot and Lowes, or the many stores that Walmart have destroyed. There is absolutely nothing we as the public stand to gain from this. Anyone??

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[ChrisTheCop]

Our TV is now as fucked as our radio
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[TheMojoPin]

Who is that and why does it look as though all of the parts of her face were being drawn to some unseen black hole in the middle of her nose?

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[monsterone]

it is not a black hole, it's from her massive camel toe.

[JustJon]

Ps..Where are these "new rules" for the board? Do they not apply to the "inner circle"?

New rules? I rule. Inner Circle? Allow me to pull back the curtain on a fucking joke. The inner circle are guys who sit at a table at Bar9. No more, no less.

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She has a tv show now.

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[FiveB247]

I made a comment in reference to what the thread was about. If you don't like it, I really don't care.

Ps..I made the "new rules and inner circle" comments as a snide joke. Nothing more than that.

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[ChrisTheCop]

The reggae group that sings the theme song to COPS hangs out at Bar9?! cool.

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[spoon]

Sorry Chris, but that was just painful!

"Worst joke ever!"

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[mdr55]

Leave the radio chic alone. I listen to her show sometimes in the a.m. (when i get the chance to wake up early). Plus, she's also kinda hot.

[PanterA]

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She has a tv show now.it's on the Metro channel and I believe it's like the chick on chick shit she did on her radio show.

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[Mike Teacher]

I must be severly retarded but I dont see the big deal. Someone please explain in a language a mental midget like myself can understand.



Leading up to the FCC decision, I started researching for an opinion piece for a new jersey shore newspaper [the asbury park press] that's lets me spout off once in a while. It's about done save for some tweaking. Anyway, this is as far as I got...

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Some would say that radio these days has gotten really bad.

Radio; perhaps the only true medium that requires active listening, was [an still is] a wonderful and exciting thing. Early on the very idea of stretching out a piece of wire, connected to a box which, when the dials were just so; would transmit the human voice was considered absurd. At first a novelty; radio exploded as it's usefulness as a communications medium, and soon after, an art form, began.

What gave radio it's special quality was its immediacy. Decades before television would appear in even its simplest form, the nation, and world, embraced radio as utter magic, one could listen to a baseball games happening thousands of miles away, or listen to a president speak, as it really happened. Let us not forget what an enormous leap radio gave us in terms of communications. Wireless telegraphy was the state of the art before radio transmission of voice began. And as soon as that was possible, you could, for the very first time, listen to an event in real-time occuring on the other side of the globe.

But all of this means nothing to the FCC, it would seem. The regulators and the regulatees have clearly decided to get together and do business irrespective of the wants or needs of the listener, or opportunities for small stations offering a diverse choice of formats.

The small market, and even medium-market radio station is a dying animal. There are just too many other alternatives for someone wishing to engage themselves in the media.

The slippery slope began in the 1980s when the FCC began relaxing policies on broadcasters, then in the Telecommunications Act of 1996 seriously eroded ownership requirements, and the big guys started buying up the small guys. Or at the least, offering shows that could be heard on any of hundreds of other stations across the nation.

The top radio shows now are produced such that there is rarely a mention of the shows origin, or even day and/or time of broadcast, since it will be played in many different markets at many different times.This is exactly the immediacy and intimacy between the station and listener that made radio what it was at its best.

Radio for the listener at the NJ shore used to be the way music was listened to. FM radio, invented specifically for its quality sound, made the supergroups, as well as the has-beens in music.

I had the terrific good fortune to run Monmouth University's radio station WMCX during my studies, and work at WHTG, both AM and FM, for the better part of a decade. At the time both stations were fiercely independent entities. And they still are. I use these only as examples for my small experience on the airwaves. Having said that, back then these stations, and many others, had DJs picking what music was played. We had the freedom to steer a show in a direction, and do take as many requests as we wished. We tried new music, irrespective of the look or really any visual blah. What mattered was the music. And people were often so loyal to a station that they would amaze the DJs, and the station, again and again, with support. And it was fantastic.

Today, rare is the music station where the DJ has any say in what is played whatsoever. While I can certainly understand, from a programmers standpoint why this may be desirable in terms of how marketable a station is, and yes, how popular; let us admit that the cost is, again, the interaction between the station and listener.

The result? A homogenization of the numbers of songs and artists heard on the airwaves. A collapse of individual station identity. A hyper-narrowin

[TheMojoPin]

I wish I had more teachers like Mike The Teacher.

Thanks, M-I-K-E to the T.

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[spoon]

Mojo's "Hot for teacher!!"

Can you hear the music and me singing?

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[TheMojoPin]

I can, and, sadly, I can see Mikey taking to dancing on the desks in a blue bikini. HELP.

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[FiveB247]

Radio, television amongst others are simply around to sell products and services via advertising. It's all part of the dumbing down of America.

Ps..Christhecop...I found your reference amusing.

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