"Peace" Protesters Destroy 9/11 Memorial

[The Blowhard]

http://www.whittierdailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,207~12026~1234836,00.html

Bastards!

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fuckin protesting hippie's have no respect for what this country stands for and what it has done in past.

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[jratt]

I think this people have no idea what they
are protesting, and it is just the next fad like pokemon to burn the flag and hate america.
I hope some of those people loose a loved one to terrorism fucking retards

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[Doogie]

I think it is time we show these protesting hippies what war is all about NYC construction workers style. I want to catch these fuckers bleed them slowly and painfully and when they are near the hour of death, give them a transfusion so they live and have to go through the torture again. I WILL NOT STAND BY AND WATCH SOME FUCKING ASSHOLE SCUMBAGS DESECRATE 9/11 MEMORIALS THAT WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beware hippie mother fuckers, I am packing...

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Doogie,

Please, don't hold back. How do you REALLY feel? :-)

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[Doogie]

;-) Smiles make it all better Alice, you are right. But hippies, protest war all you want. This is first and last warning...touch 9/11 memorials and there will be consequences.

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[DarkHippie]

this is fucked up, the three people who did this should be ashmaed of themselves. this is not the way to get your message across.

that being said, 3 people doesn't make a protest. don't burn the rest of us for the actions of a few.

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[A.J.]

Antiwar protesters burned and ripped up flags, flowers


They ripped up flowers? That's not in keeping with the spirit of "Love Power"!

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[HBox]

This is just another example of why I hate humans.

[Bob Impact]

This is hideous, but I would ask that Conservatives don't use this thread to bash liberals. Just as insane Pro-Lifers will murder Abortion doctors, so too will insane Anti-War protestors attack a memorial to those who died. These people have no thoughts about what they're doing, they just do it because they think it will make some kind of a statement. They're morons.

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[JiZ]

That does sound sort of messed up. Though, there is nothing wrong with burning the flag.

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[TheMojoPin]

What would the point even be in trashing something like that?

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[A.J.]

American Flag Vandals Break Windows to Protest War

(2003-03-11) -- After learning that they would not be arrested for destroying privately-owned American flags because police consider it 'free speech', a group of anti-war protestors in La Habra, CA, have taken to breaking windows in private homes and cars in the neighborhood.

"We're damaging these homes and vehicles as a form of political speech," said one unnamed protestor as she slammed a brick through the window of a Lexus. "We object to the military-industrial complex and capitalist oppression."

Before they started exercising their free speech rights on windows the antiwar protesters had burned and ripped up flags, flowers and patriotic signs at a Sept. 11 memorial that residents erected on a fence along Whittier Boulevard, according to a report in the Whittier Daily News.

Although police witnessed the vandalism Saturday afternoon, they did not arrest three people seen damaging the display because they were "exercising the same freedom of speech that the people who put up the flags were,' La Habra Police Capt. John Rees said Monday. "For this to be vandalism, there had to be an ill-will intent."

The protestors insisted they bore no ill-will against the people whose property they were destroying. Local police passively observed as one protestor set a house on fire to dramatically express what might happen to oil wells in Iraq if the U.S. attacks.



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[DarkHippie]

Although police witnessed the vandalism Saturday afternoon, they did not arrest three people seen damaging the display because they were "exercising the same freedom of speech that the people who put up the flags were,' La Habra Police Capt. John Rees said Monday. "For this to be vandalism, there had to be an ill-will intent."

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[high fly]

Heh heh heh, good one AJ.
What's sad is these dolts probably think they're cool.

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[Doogie]

The following people are sought for questioning in this case:

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[Drudge Jr.]

this is insane... first of all how do you call 3 people "protesters"? how do 3 people protest? these were not protesters, these were vandals. calling them protesters is clearly spinning the story to bash real protesters. trust me conservatives, these were not protesters, these probably were ignorant psuedo-radical anti-americans who just wanted to destroy something regardless of what it is.
i think any real protester should know who bob dylan is!

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[Se7en]

This is hideous, but I would ask that Conservatives don't use this thread to bash liberals. Just as insane Pro-Lifers will murder Abortion doctors, so too will insane Anti-War protestors attack a memorial to those who died. These people have no thoughts about what they're doing, they just do it because they think it will make some kind of a statement. They're morons.

Excellent point.

The fringe elements make ALL of us look bad, no matter what part of the political spectrum you fall on.

That said, does anyone else find it ironic that the RFN member named after Matt Drudge seems to be quite liberal?

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[Cyclops]

This country is founded on freedom of speech, and the freedom to protest. But for people to desecrate a 911 memorial is beyond words. Thats not speech, its a bunch of assholes who have nothing better to do than destroy property and hide behind the 1st ammendment. If this really was a protest against the the upcoming war than it only goes to show how ignorant some in the anti war crowd are.
I will respect anyone who disagrees with the policies of any nation "ours included" but there are ways to go about showing your dissaproval without burning the flag or destroying a memorial.

[RandomNY]

They destroyed people's cars because these people had the gall to hang a flag? That is BULL these were just a set of vandals with nothing better to do. I doubt it really would have matter if the people's cars and homes they destroyed might be against this war and just hung the Flag to show thier patriotism because of 9/11.

The cops that allowed this should be fired. The people whose property was destroyed(last I checked Destroying people's cars and homes IS NOT LEGAL) should sue the town board, the police, and the 3 VANDALS because of this.


I happed to be in favor of this war.

I find some of the ANTI-WAR protest to be in very bad taste. Everyone is right in saying 3 people is not a protest. They are just trying to hide behind the 1st amendment to avoid prosecution for vandalism.

[CaptClown]

Now this really pisses me off to no end! Bunch of useless jackasses.

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That said, does anyone else find it ironic that the RFN member named after Matt Drudge seems to be quite liberal?


Who?

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Random, the car article was a joke by AJinDC. They did wreck the guys fence though.

It's official, the war has taken so long to actually happen, that people are losing their minds at an even higher rate than usual. Between jackholes descretating 9-11 memorials to the rush on duct tape, the apes will be running the show in no time.

Please, Mr. Collison, file charges. Then extradite them to N.Y.C. where our hardcore cops can adminisitor The Louima. Stupidity should be painful.

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[Bergalad]

Let's remember that this 9/11 memorial is just a symbol. As the more liberal posters lectured to us last week about the flag, no one can tell you how you should interpret a symbol. That memorial means different things to different people, so who are we to chastise those individuals who viewed the memorial as a representation of US policy? Property damage aside, this is a case of free speech, just like that girl turning her back on the flag that so many in here supported. Where are the defenders now?

Really, I think the 3 of them suck. It is interesting to me however that some those who were so wrapped up in defending someone's right to determining symbolism (the flag) are now decrying this group's attempts to do the same thing. Some consistancy would be a good thing.

[sxymale]

so who are we to chastise those individuals who viewed the memorial as a representation of US policy?


uhhhh because it ISNT.
by this piece of genius i can claim that your house is a representation of evil so its my right to destroy it..your argument is so stupid it boggles the mind.

[FiveB247]

There is an obvious difference between protesting (free speech, even if to some that means flag burning) and destroying property (whether it be 9-11 memorials or whatever). And simply grouping three idiots destroying property or memorials with everyone else who stands for various mediums of free speech is a simply ridiculous.

It's like associating a prostitute to your girl friend cause they both have sex.

[HAMMERHEAD]

I do not belive my eye's. This is a joke. This can not be true. You mean to tell me that police stood by and watched 3 people burn american flags and 9/11 memorial and smash windows. You see this is the part of the problem with this country, everybody is worried about being "P.C." . There is no way in hell you can tell me that by doing what they did that it is not vandalism, so now if I feel like it I can walk outside throw a brick through a car window and say I am doing this because I protest the war in Iraq, Insane absolutely infuckingsane. Also since when does 3 people constitute a protest, this is bullshit. Then again they are in California things seem to be different there, but let these fucks come to New York or Jersey and do that shit. First the people would kick there ass then the cops would probably kill them not to mention the Fire fighters. I don't know what this country is coming too.

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[TheMojoPin]

That memorial means different things to different people, so who are we to chastise those individuals who viewed the memorial as a representation of US policy? Property damage aside, this is a case of free speech, just like that girl turning her back on the flag that so many in here supported. Where are the defenders now?

Who are you, FiveB? Weak, Berg, weak...you two deserve each other.

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[A.J.]

Random, the car article was a joke by AJinDC. They did wreck the guys fence though.


Yeah, uh, I forgot to mention that. Sorry for the confusion.

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[FiveB247]

Mojo ...what are you talking or reffering too?

[Se7en]

Really, I think the 3 of them suck. It is interesting to me however that some those who were so wrapped up in defending someone's right to determining symbolism (the flag) are now decrying this group's attempts to do the same thing. Some consistancy would be a good thing.

Your argument is retarded.

If I have, for example, an American flag on my PERSONAL, PRIVATE PROPERTY, and some douche bag tries to deface or vandalize it, based upon your same INSANE logic, than I will absolutely sic my dog on them.

I've trained him to go for the throat or crotch. You pick which soft spot you want him to attack first.

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[LatterYearsJimMorrison]

To quote Jim Breuer, those guys are FAGGOTS, FAGGOTS!!!

[TheMojoPin]

It is interesting to me however that some those who were so wrapped up in defending someone's right to determining symbolism (the flag) are now decrying this group's attempts to do the same thing. Some consistancy would be a good thing.

What? The basketball player wasn't physically hurting anyone, attacking anyone or anything or damaging her own or anyone else's property. These assholes went out of their way to destroy something that didn't belong to them and then damage someone else's personal property. There's no "consistancy" because it's not even remotely close to being the same issue. The issue here isn't symbolism, it's people destroying something that they wasn't theirs and attacking someone's personal property. It wasn't a protest...it was a series of crimes.

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[Bergalad]

I was being mostly sarcastic with what I posted, and if you actually think I believe stuff like that normally then you've never read any of my posts before. I think the 3 guys are punks without any idea of what they were doing besides smashing crap and should be nailed for it. Of course they are guilty of property damage and vandalism, but that's not what I was really referring to. To me it seems that people are more aghast about destroying a symbol of 9/11 than destroying a US flag. That is what the underlying point of my post was, that posters seem to care more about a symbol of our grief rather than the symbol of our greatness.

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I got the sarcasm Berg.

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[TheMojoPin]

I got the sarcasm Berg.

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SMOOCHES!

I didn't get it. So sue me.

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[The Blowhard]

What? The basketball player wasn't physically hurting anyone, attacking anyone or anything or damaging her own or anyone else's property.


What if one of her classmates had a parent or family member serving in the military? It could have caused a major disturbance and it could have lead to violence and of course, legal action if anyone got hurt. This kid was probably a spoiled brat from the Burbs(like many of you) who wanted to piss people off.
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Ask Mojo what time it is and he'll tell you how to build a clock. Young rascal!

Shut up, dad. I saw you drinking behind the tool shed.

As for the rest...

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The country isn't goddamn Tinkerbell.

Man, I'm surly when I run out of fine, fine wine.

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[TheMojoPin]

What if one of her classmates had a parent or family member serving in the military?

So what? She's not sabotaging their equipment or stabbing them in the eye or kicking them in the shins. Our soldiers aren't pansies. One whiny little snot isn't going to get them down. Every war we've been in has had to suffer an anti-war movement (Even WW2, almost 2 million strong), and our troops seem to have done just fine.

It could have caused a major disturbance and it could have lead to violence

But this didn't happen, so it's not really comparable to the dipshits that tore up the memorial. And even if a "disturbance" was caused, you'd still blame her more than, say, a bunch of people who started tearing up the gym or turning over cars because they didn't like what she was doing? She wouldn't be the one smashing everything.

This kid was probably a spoiled brat from the Burbs(like many of you)

Durrr.

who wanted to piss people off.

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[The Blowhard]

Savages, all of you Commie Pinkos!
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[TheMojoPin]

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[TastelessGinny]

Personally, I believe that the only TRUE anti-war demostrations are ones involving peaceful assembly.

To destroy property, savage memorials, scream, name-call, accuse or abuse is to take part in the very thing being protested: violence. One cannot be violently anti-war.

You can tell the true peace demonstrators from the "me-tooers" by how they conduct themselves in their protest.

The people in this article were not anti-war demonstrators; they were vandals.

They should be treated as vandals, and they should apologize not only to the people whose memorial they destroyed, but to anyone who has truly worked toward peace.

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UPDATE

An arrest was made:

http://www.whittierdailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,207~12026~1239953,00.html

My favorite quote in the article:

"She walked through the crowd saying 'They can't arrest me, they won't do (expletive) to me,' said Chandler. "To do that, to walk through a crowd of angry people, well she must be one hamburger short of a Happy Meal.'

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[CaptClown]

SMOOCHES!

I didn't get it. So sue me.


I won't sue as long as you're taking me out for dinner and a few drinks.

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[TheMojoPin]

I won't sue as long as you're taking me out for dinner and a few drinks.

Fine, but I'm not getting fooled again...SOUP COUNTS AS DINNER.

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[LiquidCourage]

Of course this doesn't represent your average anti war person.

It really enrages me.

40 years ago people wouldn't even think about pulling something like that.

What the hell has happened?

They might as well piss on the 16 acre hole in downtown Manhattan.

I hope these people get jailtime.

[DarkHippie]

40 years ago people wouldn't even think about pulling something like that.
What the hell has happened?

That's a good point, 40 years ago something like this wouldn't happen. But it was a different time. remember in the 60's they had their own violence. waterhoses and attack dogs, the assassination of Leaders, National Guardsmen firing on protesters, Rioting in the streets so intense that entire sections of cities were blockaded. Violence always seems to rear its head in one form or another, the best we can do is keep it to the outskirts and not let it destroy the message.

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