View Full Version : Bush's News Conference: What'd You Think?
ChickenHawk
03-06-2003, 04:53 PM
I'm disappointed nothing new was learned. It's time to make a decision already. Enough stalling.
What's everyone else think? Fire away...
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FiveB247
03-06-2003, 06:04 PM
I didn't get to see all of it....but it seemed like Bush was dancing around many of the North Korea questions and giving simple and obvious answers. I don't think I need to reiterate my thoughts on Iraq as I've done so many times previously.
I also heard on CNN earlier, Bush mentioned "9-11" 11 or so times. ugh..
This message was edited by FiveB247 on 3-7-03 @ 12:08 AM
TheMojoPin
03-06-2003, 06:11 PM
I'm just kinda excited about this rumored news concerning Osama...
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Death Metal Moe
03-06-2003, 06:59 PM
You know, I'm a little sick of this 'Nothing new was learned" argument.
You know why? because Bush has ALREADY told us again and again what needs to be done and we're still waiting for the UN to do something it seems.
My problem with Bush is that he's waited too long now, just a Chicken Hawk stated.
Other than that I thought he was clear, firm and did a good job.
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travis151
03-06-2003, 07:40 PM
I felt that the reporters dodge hard questions as " Is it true that countries such as France and Russia have Billions invested in Iraqi oil fields , do you feel that it might make them hesitate to go to war because they might lose teir investments?". I can't stand that the media doesn't want to report this and that's what is holding France and Russia back.
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erole
03-06-2003, 07:51 PM
travis, excellent point. we should all take note to gather information from alternate sources...news today has gone pop, just like how music goes pop. instead of original, unbiased, full coverage, we get pop news in an easily digestible visual pill form.
the speech. two things,
1...Bush's tone. He was thoughtful, insightful, no sign of trying to be a war monger or a cowboy on the edge. He was calm and unexcitable. I sort of think this is deliberate to show the US, the left, and the world that these alligations of him being this Texas Chain Saw Massacre ready to be unleashed is untrue. Personally, I wish he did act like a cowboy...saddam is a nut, there are crazy ass devices both chemical and nuclear there, the mass graves must end, there are terrorist training camps there, and the iraqi people need freedom. Go all out George! Go in there Patton-style - right to Bahgdad and then directly into Tehran while we are at it.
2...Bush needs to be repetitive. He needs to always repeat his reasons so that they are clear and understood. This is what separates us from moron countries and leaders who act on impulse and destruction. He spent a question and answer for an hour...he never does that, never. it's not his strong suit...this is it boys and girls, next Bush speech might be during a war with iraq.
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HordeKing1
03-06-2003, 11:41 PM
Well, we didn't learn anything new. We never do in Bush's speeches. If only he had the balls to say, we know what's going on and have known for a long time. Fuck the UN, we're going in. Bush likes to talk but do little. We should have invaded at least a year ago.
On the other hand, I was impressed that Bush appeared calm, relaxed and his eyes didn't glaze too much when asked questions. I guess he's been studying Hussein's demeanor during Dan Rather's interview for pointers. He even refferred to God a couple of times, just as Hussein did. At least Bush didn't leave the conference to go pray. ;)
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Dirtybird11
03-06-2003, 11:53 PM
i think he's a fucking madman with a personal grudge against saddams magic mustache.
i also think he is a fucking moron.
but who am i? im on a messege board at 3:54 am.
just fuckin bomb em already, then let all the other sissy fuckers jump on our bandwagon as usual..
the only way for true peace is to kill the bad people right?
remember that uncle sam.
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I only saw some of the highlights.
My problem with Bush is that he's waited too long now, just a Chicken Hawk stated.
Part of the delay was getting all the requisite forces and material in theater.
Fuck the UN, we're going in. Bush likes to talk but do little. We should have invaded at least a year ago.
HK: I don't know if you saw this but I posted it in another thread:
Interesting thoughts from Andrew Sullivan:
"BUSH AND CLINTON: I've been thinking lately about the alleged vast difference between Bill Clinton's foreign policy and George Bush's. To listen to some Europeans, you'd think it were night and day. But on the key issues at stake now, the principles of U.S. foreign policy are pretty much indistinguishable between Clinton and Bush. On Iraq, Clinton's stated objective, after the failure of sanctions, was regime change. The other day, I quoted the former president who, in his language at least, was no less hawkish than Bush:
"What if [Saddam] fails to comply and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route, which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction? ... Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day, some way, I guarantee you he'll use the arsenal."
MORE MULTILATERALIST: The difference, of course, is 9/11 and the simple fact that Bush has, shall we say, a different relationship with the follow-through than his immediate predecessor. Even in practice, on, say, the unilateral question, there's the Kosovo precedent, which shows that Clinton was prepared not merely to defy certain powers, i.e. Russia, to do what he wanted; but he was also prepared to bypass the U.N. altogether if necessary. In this narrow sense, Bush is actually more multilateralist than Clinton. He's heading into an uncertain Security Council vote which he need not have pursued. Even on an issue like the Kyoto accord, the differences are exaggerated. No one seems to point out that ratification of Kyoto was killed not by Bush but by the Senate under Clinton which voted it down 95 - 0. Again, the difference with Bush is that he connected this action with words. Clinton was a master at saying what others wanted to hear. What I'm getting at is that the distinctions are by no means as great as some would have it; that some of our problems today are not a function of Bush but of world events; and that Clinton's facility with schmooze and inaction didn't solve the problems of a unipolar world; it merely delayed them a while. That period of glorious avoidance is now over - for good and ill. But very similar policies endure."
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