What is this war really about?

[Heavy]

Assuming it happens, what will the real reason be? Will it be for G.Bush sr, oil or maybe those pesky weapons I hear so much about? I'd like to know.

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[Death Metal Moe]

It's to liberate millions of people from a man with a proven track record of death.

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[TheMojoPin]

Y'know those guitars that are, like, DOUBLE guitars?

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[GaryWyze]

<font color=purple>All of the reasons you listed probably play a part.

In addition, the elections aren't far off and a victory in Iraq helps deflect from the failure to get Bin Laden and break Al-Queda.

Regardless of what the primary purpose is, dealing with Iraq now saves the world from a real headache later.

In the eighties, Israel received world wide condemnation, the USA included, for taking out Iraq's nuclear facilities. Today, any expert will tell you that we're all very fortunate for them having done that.

Even if most other nations are opposed to the war on Iraq, I think history will show that it was the right thing to do.

And that's reason enough right there.

[IrishAlkey]

All of the reasons you listed probably play a part.

In addition, the elections aren't far off and a victory in Iraq helps deflect from the failure to get Bin Laden and break Al-Queda.

Regardless of what the primary purpose is, dealing with Iraq now saves the world from a real headache later.

In the eighties, Israel received world wide condemnation, the USA included, for taking out Iraq's nuclear facilities. Today, any expert will tell you that we're all very fortunate for them having done that.

Even if most other nations are opposed to the war on Iraq, I think history will show that it was the right thing to do.

And that's reason enough right there.

Man, you're funny!

Ever think of dabbling in comedy?

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[GaryWyze]

Man, you're funny!

Ever think of dabbling in comedy?

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[TheMojoPin]

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[reeshy]

Calm down, Moe!! Calm down, Buddy!!!

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[TheMojoPin]

Yech...I was so drunk, I probably thought I WAS Moe...I promise to keep my hammered ass off the board in the future.

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[Coco]

What puzzles me is that for many many years we were aware of the unrest in Iraq and other oil producing areas and our dependance on their oil. Why haven't we come out with other varied choices of fuel, like ethanol for instance, and more importantly, actually used them on a wide-scale basis.

What is the delay in doing this?

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[Coco]

In addition to what I mentioned about our ever-dependance on foreign oil and our refusal to not expand our use of other means of fuel, further insanity is happening in Columbia (I believe they are the 9th largest producer of oil) where American Special Forces have been training Columbians to protect the pipeline there. I guess our country feels particularly dependant on Columbia for oil as it is one of those countries outside of the "Arab block". The insanity NEVER ENDS!

(Taken from CNN News - one of many stories coming out of Columbia)

Key Colombia oil pipeline out after rebel sabotage


BOGOTA, Colombia (Reuters) -- Colombia's second-largest crude oil export pipeline, crippled nearly 100 times last year by leftist rebels, was out of action again after the first attack of 2001, state oil firm Ecopetrol said on Sunday.

A spokesman told Reuters the pipeline was hit by dynamite at 4 p.m. on Saturday some 53 miles (84 kilometers) west of the Cano Limon oil field near the Venezuelan border.

Cano Limon is operated by U.S.-based Occidental Petroleum Corp.

The spokesman had no details of levels of reserves or for how long the 220,000 barrel-per-day (bpd) capacity line would be out of action. Repairs in the past have taken several days to several weeks.

The spokesman blamed National Liberation Army (ELN) rebels, believed to have been behind most of at least 97 recorded attacks on the pipeline last year, for the sabotage.

The 485-mile (780-kilometer) oil duct, in the northeastern province of Arauca -- a leftist guerrilla stronghold -- has long been a target of sabotage by the two main rebel groups in Colombia's four-decades-old conflict.

They bomb it to protest what they see as foreign corporate dominance of Colombia's oil industry.

The ELN is fighting the larger Revolutionary and far-right paramilitary gangs in a conflict that has claimed 35,000 civilian lives
and displaced 2 million people since 1990.

Continued sabotage of the pipeline has cost the government and Occidental hundreds of millions of dollars and caused large-scale environmental pollution, industry sources say.

The Cano Limon pipeline began operation in 1986. Oil is Colombia's largest export earner.




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[The Blowhard]

What puzzles me is that for many many years we were aware of the unrest in Iraq and other oil producing areas and our dependance on their oil. Why haven't we come out with other varied choices of fuel, like ethanol for instance, and more importantly, actually used them on a wide-scale basis.

What is the delay in doing this?



It's the oil companies. They fear losing their control and power and have whores in Washington defending them, by any means necessary. The same can be said for Tort Reform, Washington is controlled by the Trial Lawyers. Sadly it's all about money and special interest, Capitalism at it's worst.

[Death Metal Moe]

1st Ron and Fez, and now WHORES?!?!

DC here I come!
Feets don't FAIL ME NOW!!!

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[Death Metal Moe]

WAR!!

UUUUGH!!

What is it good for?
ABSOLUTLY NOTHING!

Say it again now......

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[TheMojoPin]

Remember what war did to poor Porkins...

THIS IS WHAT WE LOSE WHEN WAR IS UNLEASHED.

"No, no, I'm alriiiiiiAAAAAAAAGGGGGH...!!!"

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[Steels]

The root of this war is ceasing the actions of a madman that possesses nuclear weapons.

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[CaptClown]

Some of all the above.


I want some of what Mojopin is having.

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[TheMojoPin]

ceasing the actions of a madman that possesses nuclear weapons.

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But on to more serious matters...why is it every President ages HARDCORE after they take office, but Bush looks practically as spry as he did when he took office...despite being President through 9/11, the conflict in Afghanistan, America's worst international relations in decades, the worst economy we've had in a decade AND the upcoming conflict in Iraq? I guess ignorance IS bliss...

I want that fucker's workout routine.

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And we all know what a great track record you have posting at this hour of the night. I think it's time for an intervention.

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I think george is still pissed over "That's My Bush" getting cancelled

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[TheMojoPin]

And we all know what a great track record you have posting at this hour of the night. I think it's time for an intervention.

You're not the boss of me!!! YOU'RE the one's with the problem...STOP POINTING AT MEEEE!!!

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[HordeKing1]

The war needs to be fought, but it's not going to be fought for the right reasons, or against all those necessary. Saudia Arabia for example is a bigger threat than Iraq.

Despite Bush's protestations to the contrary, and speeches about ending threats of mass destructive capabilities, he wants a war (and Saddam killed) to be up one on his old man.

It also helps distract from the deplorable shape of the economy and the other matters of concern that are not being attended to.



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[sxymale]

This article is SO ON THE MONEY - it should be required reading in EVERY college and High school in the United States.

http://www.newsfilter.org/articles/hatred.htm

its not long - read all the way through



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[HordeKing1]

Wow! I urge everyone to read this article.

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[NewYorkDragons80]

Saudia Arabia for example is a bigger threat than Iraq.
So how do you propose we deal with the Saudis?

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[Lummox]

The Saudis will be dealt with in due time. They have done nothing to not earn retribution, short term cooperation not withstanding....

The only thing I do know, is that I don't know....

[Heavy]

ok , thanks for clearing it up.

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[Death Metal Moe]

Wow! I urge everyone to read this article.


I CAN'T READ!!!!!!

Are you happy NOW Horde King?!?!?!

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[Death Metal Moe]

We have to prove to the ENTIRE WORLD that AMERICANS HAVE THE BIGGEST COCKS ON THE PLANET!!!!!!!

Now Move out!!!

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[HordeKing1]

Moe may be right. http://209.123.198.229/messageboard/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=69&Topic=25349&RequestTimeout=50

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