Cobra Commander

[Reephdweller]

Why did he have two masks? Personally I like the one where he has the cloth bag over his face. I think he was probably better able to breathe with the bag than with the metal no expresssion reflective under the helmet look he sported for a while. Which did you like and why? If you know why he wore two masks it would be good to know as well. Thanks

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This message was edited by reefdwella on 2-17-03 @ 9:01 PM

[Steels]

I am a HUGE fan of the great leader Cobra Commander. I also prefer the "Hood" over his helmut. His looked changed so many times for merchandising purposes. In the 80's a lot of cartoons were created and launched with "Toy Sales" in mind, hence the many faces of the great commander. Prime examples included: G.I Joe, He-man & the Transformers. All of these lines made a fortune in merchandising.

Check out some great pictures of Cobra Commander at Google Images! They have some real beauties!


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[PanterA]

I believe he changed it when in the movie his metal mask got fucked up and used his shirt to cover his face.

I guess he either cant find a new metal mask or he just liked the way the cloth one looked.

Actually it was the comic looking to spice things up and the cloth mask just looks cooler when you draw it.

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[East Side Dave]

And, did you notice that he was also the voice of Skyscraper (Megatron's devious right-hand man) on "Transformers?" Furthermore, he quite possibly could have been the voice of Skeletor as well? Yes, yes, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ah, ah, aha..............................

..........( I'm doing an evil Cobra Commander laugh; I forgot that no one reading this can actually hear me).

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This message was edited by East Side Dave on 2-17-03 @ 9:08 PM

[smiler grogan]

He probably wore two masks so they could sell more
figures. A cynical view I know but there you have it.

[Reephdweller]

And, didyou notice that he was also the voice of Skyscraper (Megatron's devious right-hand man) on "Transformers?"


dude i definitely noticed that too, but i figgured if i made the transformers/g.i.joe connection everyone would think i was weird. thanks for taking the bullet for me.

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[irishkb]

I believe he changed it when in the movie his metal mask got fucked up and
used his shirt to cover his face.


nope... in the movie cobra comander is turned into a snake..

also he wored the cloth mask when he first got mutated when still living with the people from cobra la... then when he form cobra he wore the metal mask and occasionally he wore the cloth mask around cobra head quarters..

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[Steels]

Cobra Commander....
Megatron...
Skeletor..

All of the great leaders that reined with absolute power throughout the 80's!


I'll never forget the day I received "GreySkull". I sat Skeletor on the throne (where he belonged) and put the sorceress in the prison cell. I bought the sorceress figure just to have her rot in that cell, where she still resides in my cellar.



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[satan-2]

And, did you notice that he was also the voice of Skyscraper (Megatron's devious right-hand man) on "Transformers?"

Megatron's devious right-hand man was not Skyscraper, it was Starscream.

god is an absentee LANDLORD!!!

later

[East Side Dave]

That's true, it was Starscream, (sigh).....(I'm sighing in the fashion of Optimus Prime when he got hurt in the movie and yes I realize that no one reading this can hear my Optimus Prime impression).

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This message was edited by East Side Dave on 2-17-03 @ 9:30 PM

[Steels]

I just finished downloading "G.I Joe: The Movie". Irishkb tells me it has alot of history and answers many questions. It is a relatively quick and easy download, with a cable modem that is.

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[Death Metal Moe]

I always preferred the "reflector" look of Cobra Commander actually. I always felt like his "bag" look was for the days he rolled out of beg late and didn't have time for the helmet.

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[RichCo]

I assume the hood was for more "casual" hanging about the secret lair days where the faceless helmet was more study in battle.

Beats the crap out of that bullshit gas mask tyope thiong they had hiom in in the last figures...yeesh...

And I don't believe Skeletor was the same voice as Starscream/CC but I could be wrong

Rich

[furie]

I mist say that i prefered the metal helmet.
First, it seemed more menacing than just a kowel. it suggested as to just how disfigured he was.
it also reminded me of that blackhole movie from the 80's.

[MadMatt]

I always thought the metal helmet was for battle and the cloth mask was "casual wear."

[Ay Kay Forty2]

wasn't there an episode where you finally saw what he looked like under the mask/helmet and he ended up being a snake person. It was probably the movie or just some episode.

[lleeder]

wasn't there an episode where you finally saw what he looked like under the mask/helmet and he ended up being a snake person. It was probably the movie or just some episode.

That was after they turned him into a snake. He didn't look that way originally.

[BIGASS307Buddays]

Cobra Commander was a whiny bitch.. Destro was the backbone of the Cobra Orginization and had ashiny metal head.

[lleeder]

This thread forced me to read about cobra commander and g.i. joe for the last hour on wikipedia.

[mdr55]

So where's the pics so we can vote on this???

[furie]

wasn't there an episode where you finally saw what he looked like under the mask/helmet and he ended up being a snake person. It was probably the movie or just some episode.

that was the movie. the show alluded to some sort of disfiguration but nothing shown, they did show a glimpse of what he looked like under the mask in the movie. they showed him getting hit by the spores and growing eyes all over his head.

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[Mullenax]

I started collecting 80's gi joe comic books and got a bunch on the sub-plot of Cobra Commander's son Billy who was not a snake person in any way and had an eye patch. Billy was subject to a couple of rad brainwashings and kidnappings, but I don't know anything else about him (like, did he have a mom, how'd he lose that eye, etc). I don't think he was in the cartoon, ever. Anybody know anything about Billy Commander?

[MadMatt]

I started collecting 80's gi joe comic books and got a bunch on the sub-plot of Cobra Commander's son Billy who was not a snake person in any way and had an eye patch. Billy was subject to a couple of rad brainwashings and kidnappings, but I don't know anything else about him (like, did he have a mom, how'd he lose that eye, etc). I don't think he was in the cartoon, ever. Anybody know anything about Billy Commander?

Ask and ye shall receive... (http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/billy.html)


(overall a really good site BTW)

[TheMojoPin]

I started collecting 80's gi joe comic books and got a bunch on the sub-plot of Cobra Commander's son Billy who was not a snake person in any way and had an eye patch. Billy was subject to a couple of rad brainwashings and kidnappings, but I don't know anything else about him (like, did he have a mom, how'd he lose that eye, etc). I don't think he was in the cartoon, ever. Anybody know anything about Billy Commander?

Too much. I read the hell out of the that old comic series as a kid...Special Missions, too. Last good war comics ever.

Cobra Commander in the comics wasn't any kind of mutant or "snake monster"...he was a homegrown terrorist pissed off and paranoid at the government (which he blamed for his wife leaving him, his failed businesses and the death of his brother) who created a militia and pyramid scheme that eventually became Cobra. Billy was raised by his dad but effectively ran away as a teenager. He ended up getting caught in the crossfire of an assassination attempt on Storm Shadow's old master and his car exploded, leaving him without the eye and leg.

Up until about issue #100, the old Marvel GI Joe series (plus Special Missions) were fantastic and, in my opinion still hold up. They had to make some obvious concession from time to time for toy promotion, but for the most part it was a surprisingly smart series filled with all kinds of political commentary and satire of the day, especially with the depiction of Cobra. Much different from the ridiculous villains of the cartoons, they were much more subversive in terms of creating a perversion of American society and destroying it from within.

[MadMatt]

Too much. I read the hell out of the that old comic series as a kid...Special Missions, too. Last good war comics ever.

Cobra Commander in the comics wasn't any kind of mutant or "snake monster"...he was a homegrown terrorist pissed off and paranoid at the government (which he blamed for his wife leaving him, his failed businesses and the death of his brother) who created a militia and pyramid scheme that eventually became Cobra. Billy was raised by his dad but effectively ran away as a teenager. He ended up getting caught in the crossfire of an assassination attempt on Storm Shadow's old master and his car exploded, leaving him without the eye and leg.

Up until about issue #100, the old Marvel GI Joe series (plus Special Missions) were fantastic and, in my opinion still hold up. They had to make some obvious concession from time to time for toy promotion, but for the most part it was a surprisingly smart series filled with all kinds of political commentary and satire of the day, especially with the depiction of Cobra. Much different from the ridiculous villains of the cartoons, they were much more subversive in terms of creating a perversion of American society and destroying it from within.

QFT - although I watched the cartoon, my real love was for the comics. Still one of the best series ever IMO. I loved their "silent issues" which only had images and no text. Very cool!

[JustJon]

I picked up the GI Joe trades, which I'm disappointed stopped with issue 50. Sales were slipping, but it was so great to reread those issues and they held up really well. Even Bongo the Bear.

[TheMojoPin]

Yeah, some of the stuff was obviously ridiculous, but so much of it was so clever. Cobra having most of it's "bases" actually them totally inhabiting a small town like the generic "Springfield" and "Boroca Beach" and "Millville," families and all, was a great parody and commentary on the whole suburban experience. I loved how the elite of the Crimson Guard all lived around the country strategically undercover as "Freds"...all very handsome and wholesome but utlimately generic white guys that had all received sugrery to look exactly the same and all named "Fred," so you just had a whole series of Freds that kept getting bumped off and replaced. I loved the issue where the first Fred is finally killed and you see a guy who looks exactly like him pulling up to his home and his kids run out to greet him and then recoil in horror, saying, "you're not our daddy!" and his reply is just "I am now" and that's that.

Hell, one of the Freds, 7, I think, almost took over Cobra. I still remember being stunned by the issue where he out of nowhere shoots Cobra Commander (who was in hiding and had decided to go straight after his son was almost killed) in the back and the scene ends with him standing over the body saying, "great thing about this mask...almost ANYBODY could be behind it..."

I always thought that when they brought Cobra Commander back from the dead in issue #100 was what really sent things downhill. Outside of Serpentor, the series really had embraced a sense of "reality" and CC coming back really just sent things out the window. The rest of the series was really over the top and was more about cramming in as many new characters and vehicles and goddamn ninjas as possible as opposed to actually putting out good stories. That said, it really benefitied by having the same writer, Larry Hama, from day one until the end.

[MadMatt]

I think the addition of Dr. Mindbender was the beginning of the end - that's really when the crazy premises started. The stories became more "comic-booky" instead of a good storyline.

But you are right, the return of Cobra Commander was a serious Shark Jumping moment. It was a "soap opera" move.

Of course Marvel Comics has a nasty habit of resurrecting characters, regardless of circumstances or poignancy. It's ridiculous.

Another Edit: As a matter of fact, they did the same damn thing with Optimus Prime in the Transformers comic. They killed him off then brought him back thanks to a "backup disk."

[lleeder]

I love reading about this old GI Joe stuff. Every time this thread gets bumped I become totally transfixed on all things Cobra.

[TheMojoPin]

I think the addition of Dr. Mindbender was the beginning of the end - that's really when the crazy premises started. The stories became more "comic-booky" instead of a good storyline.

But you are right, the return of Cobra Commander was a serious Shark Jumping moment. It was a "soap opera" move.

Of course Marvel Comics has a nasty habit of resurrecting characters, regardless of circumstances or poignancy. It's ridiculous.

Another Edit: As a matter of fact, they did the same damn thing with Optimus Prime in the Transformers comic. They killed him off then brought him back thanks to a "backup disk."

Yeah, all of Prime was stored on a single fucking floppy disc. Okaaaaaaay...

And I agree with the stuff with Mindbender...the Serpentor stuff in general was pretty dumb, but he really didn't appear all that much in the comic after he first showed up. And then he was a big part in the Cobra civil war, one of their better storylines, where he was finally finished off. Mindbender hung around, but he was much less ridiculous until #100 came and went and everything went completely insane.

[joethebartender]

Cobra Commander....
Megatron...
Skeletor..

All of the great leaders that reined with absolute power throughout the 80's!


I'll never forget the day I received "GreySkull". I sat Skeletor on the throne (where he belonged) and put the sorceress in the prison cell. I bought the sorceress figure just to have her rot in that cell, where she still resides in my cellar.

Kinky!

[lostboy1975]

i had all most all of the toys, then i gave most of them 2 a boy down the street about 5 years ago so he would have toys 2 play whith .his house had burned down and he had nothing to play with .

[JimBeam]

So did that Fred #7 guy get his ?

Did Cobra Commander get him back ?

[TheMojoPin]

So did that Fred #7 guy get his ?

Did Cobra Commander get him back ?

Yeah.

He buried him alive under a mountain.

[furie]

yeah, i'll have to admit that i really geeked out over the comic, but i kind of burned out on them somewhere around issue 80.
i remember really digging the issue when they introduced stormshadow.

[IamFogHat]

And, did you notice that he was also the voice of Skyscraper (Megatron's devious right-hand man) on "Transformers?" Furthermore, he quite possibly could have been the voice of Skeletor as well? Yes, yes, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ah, ah, aha..............................

..........( I'm doing an evil Cobra Commander laugh; I forgot that no one reading this can actually hear me).

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This message was edited by East Side Dave on 2-17-03 @ 9:08 PM

Hey everyone, it's Dave being drunk, February of 2003 version.

[furie]

Hey everyone, it's Dave being drunk, February of 2003 version.

and he fucked up that pop culture refrence too. proof positive that it's not an act.

does anyone remember the issues when gi-joe attack Springfield, a small midwest town that was entirely a Cobra base?
I remember that i was in the hospital at the time. My comic shop was across the parking lot from the hospital (Bon Mark Books in Plainview), so i broke out of the hospital to get that month's stash. How those fucks ignored an 11 year old in PJ's and bare feet walking right out the door is beyond me. I obviously got caught coming back into the hospital. they called my parents and everything.
But I remember that Gi-Joe storyline was goin on at the time.

[skullcrush]

say what you want but I always thought serpentor was kind of cool.with his glider and his "this I command"

[TeeBone]

Cobra Commander was a whiny bitch.. Destro was the backbone of the Cobra Orginization and had ashiny metal head.


How the fuck was Destro able to move his lips when he talked while wearing that metal head? Was it tin-foil?

[Mullenax]

skank<p><img src=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/53/GiJoeMovie_Pythona.jpg/180px-GiJoeMovie_Pythona.jpg"><p>As much as I love the comics and cartoon, I cannot abide the animated movie. I mean, seriously, underground icelandic snake alien race with vagina-shaped foliage? Awful, repetitive theme song, AND the thing they're fighting over is <b>B.E.T.?</b> Yeesh, I can't hang. Transformers the animated movie totally still holds up though.

[Knowledged_one]

are you kidding they had a money theme song

cobra-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la

I could sing it all day

[Gmann]

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[TheMojoPin]

are you kidding they had a money theme song

cobra-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la

I could sing it all day

Dude, it's so fucking bad.

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And I think you were talking about this. (http://serpentor.ytmnd.com/)

[JimBeam]

Another option for November 2008 ? :

http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/videos/20605/Vote_Cobra_Commander_08.html

http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/videos/20138/Cobra_Commander_Runs_for_President.html?videoCateg ory_key=2

http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/videos/20376/Cobra_Commander_Speech_Thief.html?videoCategory_ke y=2

[kdubya]

Cobra Commander also had a 3rd mask, the one on his battle armor. I always liked the original helmet/mask. For the longest time it was the only figure of Cobra Commander and it came with the weird hair dryer looking gun that snapped into his back.

As far as Destro is concerned wasn't he supposed to be Scottish, why didn't he have an accent?

[TeeBone]

Why bring this up again?

[kdubya]

Because it needed to be said.

Why bring this up again?

[Devo37]

I mist say that i prefered the metal helmet.
First, it seemed more menacing than just a kowel.

i agree. i thought the metal helmet seemed more futuristic as well.

the cloth mask seemed more like wearing a paper bag over his head, and plus, it seemed like it would be much easier for someone to pull off him.

as a kid, i always wondered what cobra commander's face looked like. also wondered what dr. klaw from inspector gadget looked like.

[Mullenax]

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[JimBeam]

Was it in one of the comics where Cobra Commander was captured and they were going to take off his helmet but it was boob-trapped ?

Or am I completely making that up ?