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fluffernutter

02-06-2003, 04:48 PM

Not too sure about anyone else but I cannot wait for the new season to start in a few weeks on HBO.

How did Nate do after his surgery? What is gonna happen in the new life David and Keith have together? How will Claire benefit from the guidance of Billy? Where the FUCK is Gabe? Where the FUCK did Brenda go? This season had better rule or I'll shit.

I love this show probably as much if not more than either OZ or The Sopranos. This show just seems to focus on how disfunctional life really is at times and the setting of the funeral home just makes it all the more interesting.

The Season 1 DVD box set came out on Tuesday and looks pretty cool. I just need the time to watch it. This weekend should accomplish that just fine.

Anyone else into this fine fine show?

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TheMojoPin

02-06-2003, 10:12 PM

Me.

It's just not a quality HBO show if it's not about crime or rampant butt-love. Go figure.

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fluffernutter

02-06-2003, 10:16 PM

How can you NOT love the butt-love though. I say more this year, MORE!

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02-06-2003, 10:23 PM

LET'S WRESTLE!!!

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Fallon

02-06-2003, 11:16 PM

Six Feet Under is a show I enjoy watching, but if I miss it I don't care.

I'll try to make an effort this upcoming season to watch it weekly.

p.s. This will be the official thread for the season, so don't start any others.

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02-07-2003, 12:08 AM

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XlalaX

02-07-2003, 01:24 PM

Another result of GREAT HBO programming. I just can't get enough of any of the "shows". As for 6ftU, when Nate thru the ring back @ Brenda, that was the best. She deserved it. Now they're making Lily Taylor a regular character, so I'd love to see where that's going with the baby and all. I'll miss OZ deeply, but I definately can not wait for the new season to start!!!!!

fluffernutter

02-07-2003, 09:31 PM

Yes Brenda is quite the twat but how I would have loved to be one of her little side projects last year. I love the Lily Taylor addition. She fits in so well. The only thing is, Is Nate still alive? If he is not will he "appear" like his Father does?

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02-08-2003, 12:58 AM

6FU rocks!
It can stand to drop the shrinkage-inducing mother sex related crap, but otherwise i love it!

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The Chairman

02-09-2003, 09:55 AM

The only shows the Chairman will not miss are Iron Chef and Six Feet Under. I can't wait for the new season. Unlike The Sopranos, there's never any doubt that someone will die in every episode. I don't like surprises...

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02-09-2003, 10:15 AM

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El Mudo

02-09-2003, 10:34 AM

i like the show too. when Ruth kept going to that speaker guy last year and talking about "building foundations", that was freakin hilarious...until she got told to shove it...

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02-10-2003, 08:05 AM

It is one of the best on tv wright now....cant wait for nate to find out that brendas next project is f'ing the dead guys nate had just worked on

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02-10-2003, 12:43 PM

I can't wait! I cant stand Oz..ugh.

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fluffernutter

03-02-2003, 06:02 PM

I guess the moral would be as cliche as it sounds, expect the unexpected. Don't bank on shit cause the first 15 minutes tonight just fucked me every which way. So Mate is still alive, I like it but it may have been a nice twist if he was dead too. It doesn't really matter anyway because there is sure to be twists and turns all through the season. No Brenda tonight which really shocked me and I really wonder what will hapen when she comes back.

I love seeing Keith and David in therapy which really adds a nice touch to the relationship but i swear if Keith is hitting him, then I will be upset. You can't go slapping David around. Damn it all.

Looking forward to an awesome season here. Like OZ it will go way too fast.

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El Mudo

03-02-2003, 08:43 PM

*Today she had the most perfect poop I have ever seen*

I thought it was real cool how he kept flashing back to things that happened when he was "dead"

Trying to stop talking like a grizzled 1890's prospector..

Reephdweller

03-03-2003, 06:17 PM

I figured out what the song was that played at the end, it's Coldplay's A Rush of Blood To The Head, I can't believe I forgot they made that. Especially considering i have the album. Here's all the music credits from the show from HBO's site....

episode 27

"Perfect Circles" Music Credits

For more information about the music on Six Feet Under check out www.supermusicvision.com or to contact the music supervisors Gary Calamar or Thomas Golubic you can email them at music@supermusicvision.com

Song 01: Nathaniel enjoys some fenugreek as he talks to Nate about life and death.
David Essex: Rock On

Song 02: Nate sees himself with Lisa and maya in the pastoral room.
Coldplay: A Rush Of Blood To The Head

Song 03: Nate watches his family at Christmas two years ago.
Peggy Lee: Santa Claus Is Coming To Town

Song 04: Nate watches an alternative Fisher Family Christmas.
Richard Marvin: Santa Claus Is Coming To Town

Song 05: Nathaniel and Nate discuss the concept of parallel universes existing simultaneously.
Irma Thomas: Time Is On My Side

Song 06: At a backyard BBQ we are introduced to Nate's "new life".
Steve Earle: Transcendental Blues

Song 07: At the BBQ, Lisa talks about her problems feeding baby Maya as Nate flashes back.
Soul Hat: Flat Plane

Song 08: In her drawing class, Claire draws nude model and checks out Russell.
Guy Barker: Miles Moods

Song 09: For art class, Claire practices drawing a perfect circle.
Magnet: Little Miss More Or Less

Song 10: Phil's band (played by LA band, All Rise) warm up and rehearse.
All Rise: warm up and rehearse

Song 11: David sings for his audition at LA Gay Men's Chorus / Montage
Michael C. Hall: Some Other Time(from "On The Town")

Song 12: Nate and Lisa discuss the random nature of life / End Credits
Coldplay: A Rush Of Blood To the Head(reprise)

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Fallon

03-09-2003, 02:41 PM

When was the season premire? I watched an episode last night (I'm guessing from last week) and want to know how many I missed.

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03-09-2003, 02:48 PM

Fallon, last week was the season premiere.

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skurbs

03-09-2003, 07:56 PM

this week was kick ass too. great show

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fluffernutter

03-09-2003, 08:04 PM

Again, a great episode this evening. You can just tell that in about two or three weeks shit will really start to fly. Keith and David will be at huge odds and STILL have feelings for one another and I also think Lisa will just blow up from the pressure from her boss and the little bits of friction with Nate. Claire will make a stand for herself and I bet Mom gets hooked on the vicadin.

Great addition of Kathy Bates. She brings so much to the show.

Where the HELL is Brenda?

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skurbs

03-09-2003, 08:36 PM

am i seeing things or was lisa's boss the same lady whos husband got hacked to death by the boat propellor last season?

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TheMojoPin

03-09-2003, 09:22 PM

According to the reviews I've read, Brenda won't be back until the fifth or sixth episode this season...

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sallie

03-10-2003, 04:20 PM

No that cathine o'hara from home alone.

Jasmines Song

03-16-2003, 09:49 PM

Is it me or does anyone else think that Kathy Bates and Ruth are going to fall in love?

And how does the chick die on the last episode??? I was 10 minutes late tonight....

Why was everyone so crazy about this girls death?

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EddieMoscone

03-17-2003, 05:10 AM

And how does the chick die on the last episode??? I was 10 minutes late tonight....

Why was everyone so crazy about this girls death?

She was hit by a car. As she left a club, 3 men were heckling her and following her down the block to the parking garage. She thought it was trouble and ran out into the middle of the street. Turned out it was 3 of her friends. Right after she found out a car rambled down the street and took her out. That would create too much guilt for me to bear for sure.

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03-17-2003, 07:53 AM

Bates is going to be eating Rose's box by episode seven. You heard it here first.

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03-17-2003, 08:03 AM

As much as i don't want to say it, i agree with Jeff. WHen that happens can you say jump the shark? P.s. the daughter is uber hot in a dirty way.

EffMeBoobs

03-17-2003, 04:37 PM

How cute was it to see Keith all lovey dovey with David on their vacation?! Awwwww....

Hell yeah Bates is going to be eating some carpet with Rose no doubt.

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03-17-2003, 06:10 PM

so far this season has been good. The frist epsiode of this season got me.

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fluffernutter

03-23-2003, 06:09 PM

Tonight has been BY FAR the best episode of the series so far. If was so fucked up/funny/dramatic and just plain bizarre that with it all pulled together it was just brilliant.

I see Claire hooking up with Russell in no time. I was thinking it even BEFORE he said he was not gay. Ruth is still longing for carpet and Kathy Bates was funny as HELL tonight.

Not sure about anyone else but this also had to be the gayest episode yet. Especially with the Operatic funeral and the comment "I could eat breakfast off that ass".

I see Brenda in next weeks episode so that should be ultimo-exciting as well.

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03-24-2003, 03:12 AM

Great tv last night
clair is gonna bang that kid
the mom is gonna go down on cathy bates
nate is becoming his dad
the gay duo are gonna be swingers
i love this show

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silera

03-24-2003, 03:52 AM

Why do I feel like Nate's life with Lisa isn't real?

I watch this and expect him to go into another one of his possible realities that he envisioned while being operated on.

Lisa is nuts. Their relationship is awful. They spend every moment trying not to piss each other off. Either this isn't real or I give him 2 more episodes to leave her.

Baby poop does not a marriage make.

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jratt

03-24-2003, 09:54 AM

Why do I feel like Nate's life with Lisa isn't real?

I thought about this and i think you might be right with all the weird dreams and last night
the foot rub dream and him lying in bed with lisa but he dreams it is his mom....so do you think he is still in a coma from the brain surgery
or is he dead or is this real life?????

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silera

03-24-2003, 10:05 AM

I think that this season could explore a few episodes at a time, the possible lives that he saw while being operated on.

Everything just seems a little bit off to me, like not real, not reality. All the characters are heightened and almost overplaying their roles. I don't mean that their overacting, it's very subtle.

It just seems like maybe an episode or two from now, we might see a totally different Nate. This one is really freaking me out.

He's jerking off in his car for christ's sake.

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jratt

03-24-2003, 10:25 AM

Hey the jerking off in the car thing
i can understand being a new dad myself
there is no time for the greatist pleaser
in the world.....I think you are right claire
seems to be living out her dreams
ruth us having the time of her life
david i am not sure of i think something bad
will happen to him....but overall this has been building up to something great and i cant wait

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MissExplosivo2

03-24-2003, 05:39 PM

I, for one am really happy to see Brenda in the previews for next week. I hated her last season because I thought Nate deserved better but I have really missed the crazy bitch and Billy, they really added to the show.
I heard somewhere about a possible showdown between her and Lisa.

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03-30-2003, 04:01 PM

brenda comes back this week.

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03-30-2003, 06:47 PM

Wow, I've totally given up on this show without even realizing it. I caught the second episode and like 20 minutes of the third, was horrified with the stilted, forced lameness, and since I then I don't even realize when I'm missing it. What the fuck happened to ym favorite show on TV? This better be a goddamn dream or something...

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The Chairman

03-30-2003, 08:16 PM

I'm with Mojo. I loved it last year but so far it's sucky suckerton.

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Fallon

04-20-2003, 06:37 PM

I thought tonights episode was one of the better ones this season. The paintball game was funny and it seemed like every storyline minus the redhead girl evolved a little.

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04-20-2003, 06:46 PM

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MissExplosivo2

04-22-2003, 03:20 PM

Ruth and the apprentice kid greeting eachother like cats...fantastic show!

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El Mudo

04-22-2003, 08:02 PM

I don't like Arthur...he's too monotone...

And he uses a HANKIE for cryin' out loud...

And his "computer music" sucks!!

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MissExplosivo2

05-04-2003, 06:07 PM

Excellent episode tonight! Everything seems to be reaching a fevered pitch. Only three more shows left :(

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05-05-2003, 07:18 AM

I have this feeling that david is gonna end up in the ER if he is not careful and where is lisa what happened i bet she killed herself or just ran away they will find her floating on the beach

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MissExplosivo2

05-05-2003, 07:34 AM

I bet Russell will off himself. I found that scene where he threw a fit in art class and Olivier's comments hilarious. It was really obvious that Russell and Olivier did something, I saw that coming from a million miles away. I really liked Claire's reaction and they way she screamed "you ARE an asshole!" The only thing I would suggest is that when he was yelling her name and she goes "don't even call me!" I would have screamed "...and keep my name the fuck out your mouth *slam door*" but thats just me.

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05-05-2003, 07:45 AM

I'm with Mojo and CK on this one. I wouldn't miss an episode last year, but I've maybe seen one this year. It just hasn't drawn me in and I find myself finding other shows I'd rather watch more.

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fluffernutter

05-05-2003, 08:00 AM

Am I missing out or is this season just mediocre?

I guess it all depends on how much you loved the first two seasons.

I love this show, no two ways about it. What they have been doing with the character development and the ultimately character destruction is some cases I think is brilliant. Maybe I am the f-ed up one here but shit like this does happen in life. I just connect with everyone so much becasue I feel like such the Nate because it always seems things are going well and then there seems to be something taking me down an unknown road. I identify with the Claire/Russell situation becasue Claire was me in my art classes and Russell was me becasue I thought all my work was and still is shit and it does get pretty emotional at times.

So to answer your question Aggie, I think the season was great and there has been quite a lot missed if you have not seen most of it.

I also like the Chocolate Peanut Butter Cup compare to the other 30 flavors. :| Go figure!

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TheMojoPin

05-05-2003, 09:34 AM

Loved the first two seasons. Can't stand this one. It's become like all the ridiculous daytime soap operas I've always hated, except this one can show boobs and say "fuck." Booooo.

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The Chairman

05-05-2003, 10:45 AM

This season absolutely sucks and I'm considering canceling HBO as a protest. It was my favorite show last year. Great characters, something interesting always seemed to happen on every episode, and as dysfunctional as the family and other protagonists were, they were still believable.

This year sucks.

The show goes through long boring periods where characters are not developed enough. This is not a daily soap opera. This is a weekly prime time show I pay a lot of money to see. The whole plot line with Vanessa and Rico is boring as shit. Her mom died, she's depressed, they take dance lessons. Who gives a cares.

The show has entered into self parody. The romance between Arthur and Rose is implausible and boring. Keith and David are a medium to explore gay stereotypes. Claire lives in America's most populous state and can't find a single guy who isn't totally weird.etc. etc.

But what angers me the most is how it is so gay and medication focused.

From watching the show, it is clear that the only times the producer/creator spent without a dick in his mouth was when he had a Zoloft in it.

This is not billed as a gay show. But the story lines either revolve around gay sex or dysfunctional heterosexual sex. I'm sorry, I'm no prude, far from it, but it is way over the top in its portrayal of human sexual relations.

Rose: tries to seduce a virgin half her age.
Claire: goes from drug addicted punk murderer to sexually confused college student who fucks her one day and blows his male art teacher the next.
Brenda:A sick, perverted sexual deviant who sleeps around on her boyfriend and does a 2 on 1 with some skater kids she picks up and fucks 3 minutes after meeting them.
Nate: The only one i like cause he's pretty normal.
David and Keith:What the fuck, its not good enough that they have each other, they have to start picking up strangers for 2 on 1 butt sex? Hello? What's wrong with showing a homosexual relationship can replicate a traditional male/female relationship where monogamy is practiced? Ever heard of HIV Dave and Keith? This story line just reinforces homophobes opinions that gays are hypersexual deviants.
Billy: also a dick smoker.
Vanessa and Rico:heterosexual/traditional. But her married brother gets caught blowing the painter.

I'm sick of this show. People are not like this in real life. Maybe a show which portrayed people in traditional monogamous relationships would be boring and not good for ratings. But this is over the top.

And what's with everyone on drugs and psychotropic medication? If they aren't popping ecstasy they are taking Celexa, Paxil, Xanax, Ativan, Prozac, etc. These are all good drugs and there's nothing wrong with taking them, but again it's way over the top.

I hate this show now

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Orallo

05-05-2003, 10:50 AM

Nate: The only one i like cause he's pretty normal.

Chairman, I'd have to say, if you want "normal" don't watch a TV series...

I disagree with your take on the whole thing, its a very interesting show, with some very heavy doses of emotion, humor and even some VERY "Cringe Radio" stile moments.

I love the show, I've been watching it since the first episode, and I think it has progressed and evolved very nicely.

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05-05-2003, 12:46 PM

The show sucks. It is the MOST PREDICTABLE show on tv. Ugh.

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TheMojoPin

05-05-2003, 02:59 PM

WORST. SHOW. EVER. ON. HBO. And yes, that IS counting "Arli$$"...what happened??!! I loved this show so goddamn hard, and it became a goddamn cartoon. Bah.

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05-07-2003, 05:25 PM

i like that show!! it was better when Nate was single and bangi'n away and Brenda is HOT!!

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05-11-2003, 06:27 PM

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05-11-2003, 06:27 PM

soo much lisa is missing they found her car nate is a mess david broke up with keith claire told off the teacher for fucking her boyfriend and she is pregnant and a ton of other things great one tonight

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05-12-2003, 06:15 AM

david broke up with keith

no he didn't. he only talked to nate about it, but nate wasn't paying any attention. all david said was that he wasn't sure about their relationship.

this was a great episode!! i just hope we find out what happened to lisa before the season finale.

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hyperspace

05-12-2003, 06:40 AM

i think the dissapearence is a little to neat. she probably took off to teach nate a lesson.

Alice S. Fuzzybutt

05-12-2003, 06:46 AM

she probably took off to teach nate a lesson.

That crossed my mind, but there's no way she could abandon Maya like that, even for a few days.

I'm kinda intrigued by the Dr. Pepper can in her car.

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05-12-2003, 07:01 AM

me too thats why i say it seems a little to obvious she doesn't drink soda but an attacker decides to sit in her car and leave a Dr. Pepper can neatly placed the beverage holder? how much you wanna bet nate observes brenda drinking a Dr. Pepper and has a flash back??

jratt

05-12-2003, 11:03 AM

now brenda could have something to do with it but i think it was a serial killer or something

I think david was taking all his stuff from keiths

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Furtherman

05-12-2003, 11:29 AM

I think she met a crazy man in the park because that is where we hang out.

Enough with the sigpics.

El Mudo

05-12-2003, 12:04 PM

MissExplosivo2

05-12-2003, 02:26 PM

Someone bought up the point earlier that this season "is not really happening" like its a dream or something, and im really starting to believe that after last night's episode cause wasn't that guy Ruth started crying on the same guy she used to go "hiking" with in the first season right around when her husband died?

I know who you are talking about but that's not the same guy. It does look like him though. I'm still missing Nikkolai what a nutty son of a bitch! About now I am really missing the old Six Feet Under. I can't stand normal Brenda. This missing thing with Lisa is more annoying than anything else. Why would anyone even bother looking for her?

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05-13-2003, 08:05 AM

Ed Bagely jr. was the hair dresser/hiking guy. California is a breeding ground for serial killers! and i miss the old brenda too!!

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silera

05-13-2003, 08:31 AM

This weeks episode was good but I don't think it redeems all the stupid shit I've had to sit through all season. I also may be biased because there is no more joy for me than the thought that Lisa is fucking dead.

This episode put an end to all the lunacy that has been going on mentioned in Chairman's post above.

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feistymcirish

05-14-2003, 12:07 AM

Ed Asner was the hair dresser/hiking guy.
EEEEWWWWWWWW, what a thought.

Ed BEGLEY Jr. was the guy (not that that's any more appetizing.....)

Alice S. Fuzzybutt

05-14-2003, 07:08 AM

My theories on Lisa's disappearance:

1. She went for a hike and fell.

2. She was supposed to see her sister, but the sister seems like such a minor sub-plot. Nate called her a few times, but she's never called Nate at all to see if Lisa called or if they've heard any news. I'm thinking maybe the sister is in on it. Maybe Lisa did want to teach Nate a lesson. I'm thinking Lisa staged the Dr. Pepper can, the wallet, and cell phone and her sister came to pick her up.

Yeah, I know I'm a loser for still thinking about this on Wednesday!

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hyperspace

05-15-2003, 04:52 PM

Allice you are a bright one!! i never thought of the hiking/falling scenerio!!!

Reephdweller

05-15-2003, 05:12 PM

i finally got to see the last two episodes of six feet under in their entirety without interruption. now we can talk.

is lisa dead?

is keith and david split up?

i take it claire is pregnant with the fags kid?

is it just me or does the guy who'se dating the mother suck, both as a character and an actor?

why would brendas own brother be in love with her?

is rodgrigo's wife gonna leave his punk ass?

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05-15-2003, 06:34 PM

Arthur?? he's kinda funny and brendas brother is seriously fucked up in the head! and i think clair is gonna have an abortion. Lisa if she is not dead they will probably leave that hanging till next season.

El Mudo

05-15-2003, 07:48 PM

Arthur is WAY too monotone for my taste...he sounds like Frankenstein...

hmm...Nate was bothering Lisa about going hiking earlier in the "im gonna lay you down on this rock and f- ya" episode..

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05-22-2003, 05:59 AM

I just saw this past sundays episode which I taped. I think it was one of the best shows they made. Well written, good acting, everything about it I liked.

Even the serial killers daughter with the weird pipeworks tattoos on her legs was cool. Plus Nate got to do her from behind. Go Nate!

I don't think that Lisa's dead though. I think everyone on the show is slowly writing her off, but all of a sudden she'll reappear.

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05-22-2003, 08:36 AM

i love those vunerable hot grieveing chicks!!!

Reephdweller

05-22-2003, 12:50 PM

i love those vunerable hot grieveing chicks!!!

that's the best time to get them!

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06-02-2003, 10:41 AM

IF YOU DID NOT SEE THE FINALE STOP READING

So what did you think of the finale?

I thought it was OK. Not as good as last years, but good nonetheless. I wish we would find out how Lisa died though. Killer? Suicide? I had a $20 bet it was killer and now I have to wait. Yaaarrggg Alan Ball. I thought the whole heaven thing was kinda cool and always good to see the Dad.

Enough with the sigpics.

MissExplosivo2

06-02-2003, 10:56 AM

You KNOW it's a good show when former MTV VJ, Idalis appears as a stripper who gives Rico a freebie hummer! Overall, okay season. My favorite Fisher has officially changed from Nate to Claire, she has been incredible this season. It sucks that we have to wait a year for a new episode, but oh well.

...Didn't Brenda's rack look huge in particular this episode? Discuss.

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt

06-02-2003, 10:57 AM

I thought it was an excellent episode. I was glad we got some closure with Lisa (although it's sad that she died). Nate's a mess, but I don't fully believe he was ever in love with her.

Well, we'll have to wait until June 2004 for the next season!

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06-02-2003, 11:06 AM

For some reason I think Nate killed her and doesn't remember it.

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Furtherman

06-02-2003, 11:22 AM

The stripper was Idalis?!! I didn't pick that up. If so, WOW.

Enough with the sigpics.

angrymissy

06-02-2003, 11:47 AM

For some reason I think Nate killed her and doesn't remember it

I was thinking the same thing... I don't know why but this last episode made me think he might have killed her... maybe the brain disorder is acting up again and its making him forget murdering her?

...Didn't Brenda's rack look huge in particular this episode? Discuss

yea what the fuck was up with that?

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hyperspace

06-02-2003, 03:27 PM

great episode!! and that clair is a hotty. I wonder if Ruth's new hubby is gonna turn out to be an asshole. he was married 6 times!!!

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MissExplosivo2

06-02-2003, 05:07 PM

The stripper was Idalis?!! I didn't pick that up. If so, WOW.

Indeed it was. Did anyone else find the scene where Ruth sees Nate Sr. cry then turn away really really sad? Also that scene where Claire gives Ruth the earrings was really sweet. So many great things about this episode!

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06-02-2003, 06:05 PM

One of the best shows of this season, I love the strip club scene, the rest of the episode was well written, next season should be very interesting to watch

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt

06-12-2004, 09:03 AM

The season premiere is this Sunday. Can't wait!

I hope they don't leave us hanging about how Lisa died.

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06-12-2004, 09:49 AM

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Furtherman

06-14-2004, 10:43 AM

The opening acid party scene was awesome. The way it was filmed - very realistic. I was cracking up until it ended the way it did, although I saw it coming... shudder.

The rest of the show - very somber. Nothing too crazy, but I'm still looking forward to this season, but one of the main reasons I'll watch it because there is nothing else on Sunday nights.

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TheMojoPin

06-14-2004, 12:23 PM

I'm so depressed with how far this show fell, and how fast.

The first two seasons were some of the most brilliant TV EVER...and it's just awful. Like a soap opera where they can say, "fuck."

My biggest gripe is with what they did to David. Awkward bastard-David was MUCH more entertaining than "SUPER-GAY AND LOVIN' LIFE!!!"-David.

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FMJeff

06-14-2004, 12:24 PM

if its going to be all depressing and morose like this all season im gonna barf...

too much pathos...

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badorties

06-14-2004, 01:40 PM

My biggest gripe is with what they did to David. Awkward bastard-David was MUCH more entertaining than "SUPER-GAY AND LOVIN' LIFE!!!"-David.

great point ...

hbo holds these shows back for so long that i've forgotten what has happened ...

when the sopranos came back after 18 months, they kind of skipped ahead a bit and let the plot/characters fill in the missed time ...

with six feet under, whose characters are not as vivid, they picked up the plot from the next day ... just not as interesting, i found myself getting really bored as the show progressed, and the overly macabre ending sparked a bit of interest ...

i hate, just hate, claire's boyfriend, russell: his constant whining, arty pretensions and the cheesy ponytail/facial hair was horrible ...

i don't know if it's me, but i've lost the point or narrative thread of this show ... i'm beginning to disdain each principal character ... i hope this is season brings it back a bit ...

i know alan ball created both american beauty and six feet under, (and at times when six feet under lingers/coasts/drags it really reminds me that pompous flick) ... but i don't need to see mena suvari on a sunday night ... blech

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07-19-2004, 12:37 PM

Wow I can't believe noone brought this thread up after last night's episode. I don't want to give anything away but I will say this...Never have I seen a television show that intense, disturbing and amazing in my life. No exaggeration. By far the greatest show ever. Did anyone catch it?

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07-19-2004, 12:48 PM

Maybe we're just jaded, but I HATED the kidnapping storyline. It was like "what the fuck is going on"? For some reason, the worst possible shit always seems to happen to the Fishers...first Nate's wife gets killed and now David is kidnapped by a coke addict, beaten and robbed. Give me a fucking break already...how much depressing shit can they possibly throw at this family before it becomes a little TOO unrealistic?

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07-19-2004, 12:52 PM

Yea, it was very disturbing. Funny at times too, but I was yelling at the screen at so many times when David could have gotten out of his situation. I thought it was a bit overboard, but after shaking off the willies I'm guessing that David really is a wimp.

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07-19-2004, 01:17 PM

Give me a fucking break already...how much depressing shit can they possibly throw at this family before it becomes a little TOO unrealistic?

but that's why they are TV shows. a realistic show about most of our lives would bore the hell out of people.

i don't like the show, but watch it with my wife and yesterdays was the first one I liked. it will just end up disappointing me again though when its on next week and goes back to the crap i see most weeks.

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07-19-2004, 01:29 PM

I liked the kidnapping. It was different.

What I don't like is Brenda. I fast forward through her storyline.

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07-19-2004, 02:08 PM

Ironically, this past week was the first full episode I've watched since giving up after the first three last season.

Sadly, I've found the show still blows a big one. It's not as silly as it was last season, but it's become unbearably soap operatic. Nate has became a walking blob of gray mush...it's clear that the writers have had no idea to with him this season and the last, and I don't think they even care. Rico's affair makes zero sense, David is still as dull as ever (Lord, he was great when he was an asshole), Claire is stuck in the same "zany, alienated teen" rut she's been in since day one and hasn't matured one iota...the only one I care about and am interested in is the mom. I say kill everyone off and make it about her, her husband and the dead dad. They're the only ones with some hope left in them.

Brenda is the worst part of the show. There's zero reason for her to be on it since she and Nate aren't together. The show's focus has always been the family (And Rico, by default, as an extended member). Thusly, it made sense for Brenda to be an important character, since she was dating one of the family members. Since she and Nate broke up, however, there's absolutely zero about her to keep the viewer invested in what she's up to. She has little to no impact on the Fischers(sp?) and the rest of the show. The only time she's signicicantly crossed over this season was when Nate showed up at her place and saw her new dude there...which is something that would have had the same impact if we hadn't seen her all season and that was the first we've seen of her since last year. Her and her relationship with this new guy effects nothing, and is just filler for the writers to kill time with. SEND HER PACKING!

And I really don't think I'm too off-base in coming down this hard on what the show has become. I just picked up the season two DVD last week, and the difference in quality between the first two seasons and then these last two is astronomically huge. I think the first two were written very close to each other, with the impression that the series might not be back, and so it was all one self-contained story...and once the show caught on and became "hot," the writers were all tapped out as to what the hell to do with these characters. I think Nate's brain tumor was supposed to be the big capper for the SERIES (Whether he lived or died or not), not just the end of a season...and from there on out, they've just been lost with what to do.

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fluffernutter

07-19-2004, 02:22 PM

I mean maybe I am just a simpleton but I just still really enjoy the show quite a bit. I am quite hooked on it to be honest. These HBO shows anymore I just take them for what they are and try not to read too much into anything. I am still quite entertained by them and just let things unravel how they may so it does the job for me. Maybe it is because of my lack of intelligence that I don't try and read into what is REALLY going on. Who knows? I really enjoy this season so far and was quite ehsitant on commenting on it last nite cause I didn't think anyone cared.

Last night was just very disturbing. I found it interesting how after the kidnapping thing started, there was no bounce back and forth to any other storylines. It was just the David thing and that was all.

My only real complaint is that Brenda, if you are going to be very sexually active and fucking Joe with all of this passion and desire and maybe even love, you mean to tell me you can't unsheath those cans of yours and give him and the viewing audience a treat? I have never seen a woman have as much sex as she has in this series and NOT take off her top. A bit superficial of me I know but when the Warnings at the beginning of the show, I want to see more than corpse rack, man ass and penis. Please.

Oh yeah, anyone check out Entourage? I want to start a thread but just have heard no feedback on it yet to ssee if a thread is worthwhile. Last thing I want to do is develop yet another useless thread. Lord knows there are enough of them around here as it is.

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07-19-2004, 02:31 PM

I do actually wanna see "Entourage" now.

The previews all made it look like some cheesy WB-style "drama," but I've now read three reviews saying that it's actually mostly played for laughs, and it is really pretty damn funny. Plus, I found out Jeremy Piven plays the main character's agents, and for me, Piven ALWAYS equals gold.

And fluff, NOTHING on TV has ANYTHING to do with anyone's "real" intelligence, so don't beat yourself up like that. It's not called the "idiot box" for nothing...

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07-19-2004, 02:33 PM

Oh, and beware Brenda's boobs.

I lusted after seeing those things for a while, and then ended up Googling her a way's back...and man, those things are granny-saggy to the max. And the pictures I saw were from a few years back, so who KNOWS what they look like now...

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fluffernutter

07-19-2004, 04:26 PM

Yes, I drool but I just want to see. I am curious. Especially since I have been paying attention to those things all 4 seasons now and they have gotten BIGGER. So YAY!

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jeffdwright2001

07-20-2004, 04:15 AM

This most recent episode is the first one written by Alan Ball this season. Unfortunately, he doesn't write next weeks.

Ball was much more hands on the first two seasons and I feel the drop in quality for the past two are a direct result of other's taking over more of the writing duties.

I compare it to West Wing (another show I like) whose past couple of seasons have been spotty at best. Say what you will about Aaron Sorkin being a prick and glory hog at time, but when he keep a tight hand over the script writing, The West Wing was one of the top network shows both in audience and critical acclaim.

Personally, with a series that runs on HBO that has typically fewer episodes than those on the networks, AND with such a long time between seasons, it's the creator's responsibility to stay more close involved/attached with what is happening to more than just the general arc of the storyline.

It seems at times that the heads of the shows take for granted that awards committees are tending to favor HBO and thus they feel they don't have to comit as fully to the show once they've established a baseline of support.

My biggest fear is that seasons 2 of Carnivale and Deadwood will not match up to the standards set by their initial showings. My fingers are crossed that if and when the decline that they follow the pattern set by Six Feet Under and Sex and the City and that it doesn't happen until about 3 or 4 seasons down the road. Given how long it is between seasons, I should be in my retirement home by then and to concerned with my Jello to even care that much.

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07-20-2004, 12:49 PM

The most frustrating part is the downfall does NOT have to be inevitable.

"The Wire" is easily my favorite show on TV, period, and it was clearly written to be self-contained into just that first season.

Then the miracle happened and they were renewed, and the writers managed to work around that, and ended up making a season that, in my opinion, was better than the first.

My point?

WATCH "THE WIRE!"

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fluffernutter

08-29-2004, 09:08 PM

During tonights episode did anyone catch a very VERY breif glitch of a skull or some kind of demon over the son's eulogy where he was directing some of it towards Nate (which was in his head of course). I skitzed for a minute ther and it was so fucking quick. I need to check it tomorrow and still frame.

I am still watching this and just love this show. Yes, it does get a little corny here and there but it still entertains the fuck out of me, except for last week and I like where things are headed. Shit is really going to hit the fan with Nate and Barbara and the ashes situation and don't tell me Brenda is just going to try and get with whomever will give her a kid. I still want to see some cans lady, unsheath those things as nasty as they may be just to satisfy my curiosity. George is a complete wack-a-doo and needs to calm the fuck down. Vanessa has all the right in the world to pull all the shit she is with Rico. Good to see there is a shade of some good coming back into their marriage next week. And David, you just look fucked my boy. Fucked!

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06-01-2005, 07:58 PM

New season starts this Monday! I'm psyched. I haven't heard a thing about the new season. Has anyone?

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06-01-2005, 08:06 PM

I found it odd that it is going to be on on Monday.Weird.Maybe interest and ratings were at a low point so they just moved it to Monday. Maybe Sunday is full already. 

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06-01-2005, 08:22 PM

Yeah, I thought it was weird it moved to Monday, too.

It looks like they have that new Lisa Kudrow show on Sunday, as well as a repeat of the six-part "Angels in America." I don't think either of these should beat out SFU but I'll watch it whatever day it's on.

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06-01-2005, 08:47 PM

Yeah, I'm not thrilled it moved to Monday, but, like a sheep, I will be there. I really hope all the loose ends get tied up! I love this show!

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-Homer Simpson

Alice S. Fuzzybutt

06-06-2005, 06:07 PM

Anyone catch tonight's premiere episode? The really started off with a bang.

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-Homer Simpson

fluffernutter

06-06-2005, 06:28 PM

I was really looking forward to what happened to George. Damn, who
would have thought he went crazy? Still, it just looks like one big
clusterfuck as far as each individual relationship goes. I can't wait
for Billy to go apeshit and I bet he tries to kill Nate or Brenda. I'm
also digging the whole child angle with David and Keith. As long as
they don't show them trying to conceive a child, I'll be fine. Good
start though. I love how I can still jump here and there after all this
time.Nice impaling in the beginning too. Witht he surround
sound, I swear they mess with you cause I could clearly hear an engine
growing louder when they kept shoing the full view of the window. Excellent start to the season. 

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FMJeff

06-06-2005, 06:39 PM

Well I'm pretty much done with Six Feet under....they should call this show "Wahh, We Have Problems"...there's nothing worse than people sitting around a table drinking wine talking about how much thier lives suck, how much medication thier doing and how shitty the future is going to be...Super depressing, as always....how much shit can happen to one group of people...miscarraige, insanity, weddings....its just too much...

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fluffernutter

06-06-2005, 06:59 PM

I kind of like the dysfunction though. Not like we all don't have it
and sure not as much as they all do but meh, it's TV. I don't have all
that many shows I watch anyway. Speaking of which, it seems as if the
shows I do watch like to trade stars/guest stars. Pam from The Office
shows up as Rico's girlfriend and the one Terrorist from 24 shows up as
George's doctor. 

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt

06-06-2005, 07:03 PM

how much shit can happen to one group of people...miscarraige, insanity, weddings....It happens, trust me. 

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WhistlePig

06-06-2005, 10:13 PM

Man, I love this show! What a great beginning. I love all the parallels - mom and claire both dating nutjobs, claire and nate dating/married to sibling nutjobs, keith and david wanting a baby, brenda miscarrying. Lili taylor making an appearance at the wedding was great, too. Now I can't wait for next Monday. Hope they didn't blow their whole creative load in this first episode.

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badorties

06-07-2005, 05:57 AM

so macabre, so repetitive ... the show's been gone for a year, and the corpse took forever -- but when the episode kicked in, i remembered how boring and disappointed i was in this once very good show ... i forgot that i watched much of last season -- especially any secene containing brenda -- fast-forwarding the show ...they need to do something spectactular soon to redeem this mess of a show ...

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angrymissy

08-01-2005, 05:41 AM

Nate's dead.The whole show this season just seemed to revolve around making the viewer feel as awkward as possible with each new episode.

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ogden33

08-01-2005, 03:19 PM

Did you expect a happy ending to the show????

Alice S. Fuzzybutt

08-01-2005, 03:26 PM

Anyone know how many more episodes are left?I predict Maggie is pregnant with Nate's child.God I sound so gay.

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-Homer Simpson

Fallon

08-01-2005, 03:35 PM

I read on Yahoo News that their are three left.I'd be pretty pissed if I still watched the show and saw this headline:
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UnknownPD

08-01-2005, 03:38 PM

The whole show this season just seemed to revolve around making the viewer feel as awkward as possible with each new episodeI thought it was let's throw every TV cliche ever done and include it in this season

ogden33

08-01-2005, 03:43 PM

i would be pissed. anyone have any thoughts on it i feel like i am the only one looking at the show as a whole and not just season by season. all i can say is that i was pretty upset after watching it last night. What an amazing fucking show. Best television drama of all time

angrymissy

08-01-2005, 03:49 PM

I agree that the episode last night was kind of upsetting and disturbing as well.  I thought it was the best episode and I think the next 3 will be heartwrenching.  It's a late start to the season though.I totally thought that Ruth was going to get annihalated by a cougar... and what an asshole Nate was to Brenda, that was painful to watch.  I hope she beats Maggie's ferrety ass

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ogden33

08-01-2005, 03:52 PM

quote: I agree that the episode last night was kind of upsetting and disturbing as well.  I thought it was the best episode and I think the next 3 will be heartwrenching.  It's a late start to the season though.I totally thought that Ruth was going to get annihalated by a cougar... and what an asshole Nate was to Brenda, that was painful to watch.  I hope she beats Maggie's ferrety ass <img src="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a63/angrymissy/newsig.gif" border="0" /> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." [ Theodore Roosevelt ]

ogden33

08-01-2005, 03:57 PM

I totally thought ruth was going to get mauled too. and as for brenda i think she deserves whatever she gets for fucking his head up so much. The man just wanted peace and when he finally finds it what happens he dies. Reality TV not television drama thats what this show is

angrymissy

08-01-2005, 04:13 PM

Brenda was the villian earlier on... but she moved on after Nate married Lisa, and Nate showed up at her doorstep.  After that, it seemed that she was the only one working on the relationship.  The way he could wake up out of a coma to see his pregnant wife and child next to him, and basically say "Sorry, its not gonna work out, I fucked a Quaker" was seriously cold.

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ogden33

08-01-2005, 04:26 PM

good point but she still seems like a villian to me. And how much therapy do you think mya will need when she grows up (just  a little lol). who do you think she will end up with? i say david and keith give back the orphans and take custody of her

angrymissy

08-01-2005, 04:29 PM

And how much therapy do you think mya will need when she grows upI think that maybe Maya is not even Nate's biological daughter (there was discussion of this a few episodes back)

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FMJeff

08-01-2005, 08:16 PM

Fucking awful. I thought they were going to throw a little Dallas "it was all a dream" horseshit there at the end. Thank fuckin g-d Nate is dead. He was an obnoxious human being. Nothing worse than a man who comes out of a coma only to tell his pregnant wife he cheated on her and he's moving on...and then die. What a piece of shit. The only positive in Nate's death is the end of the Fischer family, as I don't see David producing any male heirs with Keith anytime soon. Good, let the line end, you bunch of melodramatic hippies. 

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt

08-07-2005, 06:33 PM

I cried during most of the show. I'm a blubberer. I admit that.Only two episodes left. They better come to a full circle. 

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DreamWeaver

08-08-2005, 05:40 AM

I cried through the whole thing too. If I were Brenda I wouldn't have allowed Maggie to be at the burial. She's got balls.

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angrymissy

08-08-2005, 06:11 AM

I missed it last night and am going to watch it on ondemand tonight, but from what I'm hearing it was a sobfest.  Guess I should have some tissues ready.Maggie went to the funeral???  Pregnant or not Brenda needs to kick some ass.

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badorties

08-08-2005, 08:52 AM

the show really good -- but it was really heavy, and the cotton balls in nate's eyes freaked me outthe david stuff was a bit over the top ... i never cared for brenda and didn't buy the redemption/mother angle, but i thought it was weird that no one embraced or 'was there' for brenda (except her mom who quickly made it about herself) until billy showed up at the end ...the last few episodes have redeemed the show a bit ... they've seem to go to great lengths dismantling each character, especially nate and ruth ...i loved the use of all apologies  with 'all in all is we all are' repeating over and over ...

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angrymissy

08-15-2005, 08:01 AM

Oh my God I wanted to die watching that fucking pregnant incest scene... "You can touch it if you want"GROSS!

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt

08-15-2005, 08:15 AM

It was one of the most uncomfortable episodes ever.Tonight there's an HBO special about SFU. 8pm.

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-Homer Simpson

badorties

08-15-2005, 10:36 AM

the last episode really took a huge leap backwards into the muck and mire that plagued the last the two seasons ...they have one episode left to really redeem some these characters to make this a memorable show ...

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angrymissy

08-15-2005, 11:27 AM

I'm lame.  I read spoilers for the last episode from someone who has seen it.  It sounds pretty good.  They didn't give away everything, but explained how the last episode is going to be laid out, and it sounds interesting.

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WhistlePig

08-15-2005, 11:43 AM

What annoyed me in the last episode was Clare going off on that family for driving a huge gas-guzzling SUV, while she drives a huge old gas-guzzling Cadillac hearse herself. Hypocrite.

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Knowledged_one

08-15-2005, 11:44 AM

Best thing about this show is that it is finally ending.I watched Season 1 and tried to like it, then i started watching season 2 and could take no more

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badorties

08-15-2005, 11:55 AM

I'm lame.  I read spoilers for the last episode from someone who has seen it.  It sounds pretty good.  They didn't give away everything, but explained how the last episode is going to be laid out, and it sounds interesting. i'm equally lame, where didja read the spoiler ...?

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angrymissy

08-15-2005, 12:49 PM

<a href="http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=2356518&st=1725" target="_blank">Don't click unless you want to see lots of spoilers</a>For now, the person who has seen the episode is just revealing bits and pieces, but apparently he has a huge recap he is going to post later.EDIT - that takes you to to page 116 of the thread... you'll want to go a few pages back to see all the spoilers, I'm not going to read the full blown recap <img src="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a63/angrymissy/newsig.gif" border="0" /> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." [ Theodore Roosevelt ]

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badorties

08-15-2005, 01:05 PM

intertesting ...

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08-15-2005, 01:05 PM

oops.<img src="http://scripts.cgispy.com/image.cgi?u=badorties" border="0" /> 

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XMRonFez

08-15-2005, 05:29 PM

Am I really a terrible person? I was much more depressed after Clair's Hearse was totaled then any death ever on this show... Including Nate's... <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/sad.gif" border="0" />

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badorties

08-15-2005, 05:57 PM

Am I really a terrible person? kinda, the previous two episodes were heavy shit ... 

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt

08-15-2005, 06:13 PM

I felt bad about the hearse getting totaled too. 

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Xander_H

08-15-2005, 06:47 PM

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt

08-15-2005, 06:56 PM

She was probably taking her loss of Nate out on George.

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XMRonFez

08-15-2005, 09:11 PM

I just feel bad for that Hearse because it never hurt any one. It really is the only character that isn't some sort of self important ass whining about how awful things really are, or complaing about the opposite sex, or having an affair. I know it's just a stupid car, but Nate really isn't a person either... Peter Krause is alive and well... <img src="http://www.ronfez.net/messageboard/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smoke.gif" border="0" />Maggie has become my favorite character. She comes out of nowhere, screws Nate and he ends up dead. poor girl.I'm looking forward to Diaz and sons... Rico can finally be free... Never Rub Another Man's Rhubarb...

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Alice S. Fuzzybutt

08-15-2005, 10:04 PM

It really is the only character that isn't some sort of self important ass whining about how awful things really are, or complaing about the opposite sex, or having an affair.I see you point. But the producers of the show wanted a really fucked up story line. Hence, the Fishers. 

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XMRonFez

08-16-2005, 05:32 PM

This show has just been one I've always loved to hate... I was actually happy that Clair didn't die. After she crashed when it faded to white I was convinced her name and dates were going to appear. That would have been to terrible, This show is ending too sad as it is...

Never Rub Another Man's Rhubarb...

FMJeff

08-21-2005, 10:04 PM

I'll be the first 'mo to admit it. I cried, probably for hours, not even about the show, but about people I love in my own life who could die and leave me alone. It was one of those illogical and self-serving cries you only get when touched by something artistic. I was glad to see Alan Ball penned this episode. Like Aaron Sorkin on the West Wing, his personal touch was sorely missed these last couple of years and seeing this last episode reminded me as to why I fell in love with the show in the first place. It REALLY lost track of itself but he closed up the whole mythos nicely. Seeing Claire die on her deathbed surrounded by pictures of loved ones really tugged at the ole heart strings. I was also sad to see how David and Keith went....I was also kinda taken aback by Entourage following that finale...it was almost like a breath of fresh air...sometimes you really need that lightness to offset the gloom and doom of death, dying and real emotional truth. And while "Got Milf" wasn't exactly a tear jerker, it did evoke an unexpected emotion considering the mood I was in...laughter....you gotta love HBO...it really is a weird fucking channel....

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XMRonFez

08-21-2005, 11:35 PM

I loved the fact that this episode actually began with a birth instead of a death. I really was scared that Brenda or the baby would die in the opening scene. I try not to let these things get to me, but I could not help getting emotional the last ten minutes either. Seeing all these characters die was something I really did expect since this last season started, but I really didn't think I'd feel that bad. I felt bad for Billy, but Brenda's death was the one that actually made me laugh. Keith's death really upset me at first, but it was fitting. I find it amusing that Clair lived to be 102 years old, I always disliked her the most. I have to go back now and watch the DVD's from the beginning. 

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badorties

08-22-2005, 04:15 AM

it was a really nice, solid episode until the epiogues ... the ruth/claire scenes towards the end were powerful and touching ... they really should've ended the show with nate disappearing in the rearview mirror as clair drove away ... all the death scenes looked too wierd, they didn't have the emotional impact that i had hoped and ruth looked just insanely older than george ...

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fluffernutter

08-22-2005, 05:01 AM

In my usual screwball nature I mentioned to my friends I was
watching it with as to how cool it would be to just see everyone die to
close out the series. When it actually began to happen I just had this
lump in my throat because not only did it play out a bit how I was
thinking (which freaked me out) but it was just so fucking intense. I
think when I watch it again tonight, I will cry because I was moreso
trying to see who each person was as they were older. Was it me
or was there a shot I think at Claire and Ted's wedding where Dorell
was holding hands with an Asian man? Kind of neat how having the gay
Fathers influenced his sexuality. Some of the characters were
kind of hard to tell who they were at first, especially as time went
on. But Claire, on her deathbed and all the photographs was just great.
In the end that is sometimes the most precious thing to hold onto,
memories of our loved ones and those who have touched our lives. In a
weird way it just makes me want to go tell my family that I simply love
them.I just feel a little bit too connected with this show. Weird but comforting at the same time. 

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badorties

08-22-2005, 05:50 AM

Was it me or was there a shot I think at Claire and Ted's wedding where Dorell was holding hands with an Asian man?yep, and it loked like there was an elderly, slightly asian man next to david when he passed ...i also noticed that they finally gave a last name to brenda with willa's birth and billy' blurting it out five minutes later ...

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fluffernutter

08-22-2005, 06:07 AM

it loked like there was an elderly, slightly asian man next to david when he passed ...Just
rewatched it On Demand and there was the other man that seems to have
come into David's life. It also looks like there must have been some
distance between Claire and Ted as displayed at Ruth's funeral. Really
nice way they played that out as well. 

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russellcrowe

08-22-2005, 06:11 AM

The weirdest part was the year in which people died.  I'm only 20 but I still think 2015 is too far in the future for me to be living in.  So when people where dying in 2046, 2067, 2085.  I was like, "bullshit, people alive now won't be alive in the future."  that's what happens when the 21st century is hyped beyond belief kids get all scared to be alive in the wacko future.   WE'RE LIVING IN THE FUTURE!!!!! WE'RE GOING TO DIE IN THE FUTUREEEE!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.  I'm like sooo old.  Jesus Christ.

angrymissy

08-22-2005, 07:05 AM

The obits on hbo.com give a lot more info on the deaths:Ruth O'Connor Fisher Ruth Fisher was born in Pasadena in 1946 and died at Good Samaritan Hospital of Glendale on Wednesday. She graduated from Pasadena High School in 1963 and stayed home to raise three children before opening the Four Paws Pet Retreat in Topanga Canyon twenty years ago. She is survived by her loving companion George Sibley, her sister Sarah O'Connor, her son David Fisher of Los Angeles and her daughter Claire Fisher of New York City. Ruth will also be missed by her four cherished grandchildren - Maya Fisher, Willa Chenowith, and Anthony and Durrell Charles-Fisher. Viewing will be held on Saturday, March 15th at 2 p.m. at Fisher & Sons Funeral Home at 2302 W. 25th Street in Los Angeles. Private burial to follow. <img height="20" alt="" src="http://www.ronfez.net/img/core_template/spacer.gif" width="10" border="0" /> Keith Dwayne Charles Keith Charles, founder of Charles Security Company, was born in 1968 in San Diego. He died suddenly at work on Tuesday morning. Keith attended West Point Military Academy, graduating with a degree in Criminology in 1989. He served the city of Los Angeles as a member of the LAPD for nine years before joining the security industry. He leaves behind his devoted husband David Fisher and loving sons Durrell and Anthony Charles-Fisher, his grandson Matthew, his sister Karla Charles and his niece Taylor Benoit of Carlsbad. Keith is pre-deceased by his parents Roderick and Lucille Charles of San Diego. Memorial service will be held on Sunday, February 18th at 2 p.m. at Fisher & Sons Funeral Home at 2302 W. 25th Street in Los Angeles. <img height="20" alt="" src="http://www.ronfez.net/img/core_template/spacer.gif" width="10" border="0" /> David James Fisher Born January 20, 1969. Died at the age of 75 in Echo Park. He was proud owner and operator of Fisher & Sons Funeral Home of Los Angeles for over forty years. After retiring in 2034, he went on to perform in dozens of local theater productions, including Weill and Brecht's "Threepenny Opera," Rossini's "The Barber of Seville," and as Ebenezer Scrooge in Dickens' "A Christmas Carol." David leaves behind his partner Raoul Martinez, his beloved sons Durrell and Anthony Charles-Fisher, his sister Claire Fisher and his three precious grandchildren Matthew, Keith, and Katie. In lieu of flowers, donations can be made to the Southern California Opera Association <img height="20" alt="" src="http://www.ronfez.net/img/core_template/spacer.gif" width="10" border="0" /> Hector Federico Diaz Died at the age of 75 while vacationing with his wife in Puerto Rico. Federico graduated from Cyprus College in 1997 with a degree in Mortuary Science. He worked as a restorative artist for several years before becoming part owner of Fisher & Diaz Funeral Home on 25th Street. In 2005, Federico opened the Diaz Family Mortuary on DeLongpre Avenue in Hollywood, where he served the community for 35 years before retiring. Pre-deceased by his parents Mauricio and Lilia Diaz of Los Angeles. He was married to his beloved wife Vanessa for 54 years and leaves behind his cherished sons Julio and Augusto and his three grandchildren: Emily, Celestina and Vincent. Memorial service will be held at Diaz Family Mortuary on Saturday, February 16th at 11:00 a.m. Funeral mass will be held at 9:30 a.m. the following day at St. Paul's Catholic Church in Atwater Village. <img height="20" alt="" src="http://www.ronfez.net/img/core_template/spacer.gif" width="10" border="0" /> Brenda Chenowith Brenda Chenowith was born July 19, 1969 and died at the age of 82 at home. She earned her Masters Degree in Soc