View Full Version : Inspectors claim to have found 11 "empty" chemical warheads in Iraq.
TheMojoPin
01-16-2003, 09:52 AM
There a thread for this already? Well, surf on over to any of the news sites or turn on any of the news networks...it's all over the place. The Israeli's are getting a little antsy as well..."Red Hail"? Wowzers.
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Orallo
01-16-2003, 10:01 AM
I think "somebody" is a step closer to a MAJOR ass-kicking!!!
I dont mean to point fingers, but the Camel-F'r has a stupid little mustache.
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TheMojoPin
01-16-2003, 10:07 AM
Dude, you've got the sig-length of a rebel.
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Alice S. Fuzzybutt
01-16-2003, 10:12 AM
Does this mean we can go in and whip some butt!?!?!!?!
Dude, you've got the sig-length of a rebel.
Yeah, Orallo-- keep it to just 3 ways to skin a cat! :-)
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Abrasive Dean
01-16-2003, 10:12 AM
Bugger!
I bet "signals" traffic is intense in the Mediterranean.
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Johnathan H Christ
01-16-2003, 10:48 AM
now would be the time to start the pool for exactly when the bombs will land in Baghdad. did i spell Baghdad right?
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Johnathan H Christ
01-16-2003, 11:29 AM
ya know... the more i think about this whole iraq thing, the more i grow concerned. while i do think we need to go in and change things in iraq for the safety of ourselvs and for the rest of the world... i do worry about what will happen here in the days following any attack on iraq. will this ignite WW3?
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ChrisTheCop
01-16-2003, 11:42 AM
in case youre too lazy to reach for the remote, or dont know how to spell cnn: http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/01/16/sproject.irq.wrap/index.html
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The Blowhard
01-16-2003, 01:34 PM
"Hey man, give peace a chance"! Ha ha ha!!!!!!
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peacefrog081
01-16-2003, 02:16 PM
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FiveB247
01-16-2003, 02:46 PM
No one seems to mention we found these weapons...but Already knew about them since 95'! We were worried he would use the warheads against Israel during the Gulf War! Old news, with a new twist; welcome the media control machine of the US.
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ChickenHawk
01-16-2003, 02:52 PM
This comes to me as a shock! You mean to say that Iraq was... HIDING WEAPONS FROM THE UN?! ...NOOO!!! Get outta town!
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skullcrush
01-16-2003, 05:19 PM
oh by the way,did i ever mention my job in the corps is building aircraft bombs?
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Captain Rooster
01-16-2003, 05:33 PM
I hear the bells tolling.
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canofsoup15
01-16-2003, 05:35 PM
I cant we to see how we bomb the shit out of them, this brings me back to the mid-ninties. I can still hear O and A talking about the "Penis Building" that they would show on every news channel.
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Cybersoldier
01-16-2003, 05:35 PM
I wonder went the U.S government is just going to start using gamers to fly planes by remote control. Either way I'm betting March 3rd is when the bombs drop
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TheMojoPin
01-16-2003, 10:25 PM
I hear the bull shitting.
The inspectors are there to dispose of and neutralize Iraq's capability for WMD. Since when are empty missiles a cue for us to head in, guns-a-blazin'? If the chemicals aren't there, THEY'RE NOT CHEMICAL WEAPONS. The inspectors are obviously doing their job right...let them get it done right.
Hey, riddle me this...when is a WMD a "deterrent"?
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Yerdaddy
01-16-2003, 10:33 PM
The more weapons found by inspectors, the less that can be used on American soldiers when we invade. Inspections work.
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The Blowhard
01-17-2003, 02:17 AM
The inspectors are obviously doing their job right...let them get it done right.
Hans Blix has the credibility of a WWE Ref. I say we start the bombing, take the oil, undress the veiled women and buy SUVs!
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Yerdaddy
01-17-2003, 02:58 AM
Hans Blix has the credibility of a WWE Ref.
According to who?
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Captain Rooster
01-17-2003, 07:49 AM
According to who?
Didn't he give Iraq a clean bill of health just prior to '91, right before we found that they were a few months away from a nuclear weapon?
If it were not for the CIA guys that are going to feed him real-time intel in the next few weeks, he'd be kicking over burkas in Iraq's garment district finding nothing but sand.
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Captain Rooster
01-17-2003, 07:55 AM
THEY'RE NOT CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
Hey, riddle me this...when is a WMD a "deterrent"?
One, those weapons are have the sole purpose of delivering chemical agents ob the battlefield; therefore, they are chemical (NBC) weapons.
Two, ever heard of a little thing named the cold war? Mutually Assured Destruction? Or a little area called North Korea that we have to negotiate with becasue they have NUKES and enough chemicals and bio to wipe out South Korea nd Japan?
The eapons become a deterrent the moment he gets a significant stockpile.
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kc7586
01-17-2003, 08:40 AM
"empty" hunh? then i just have one question, where's the cream filling? where did it dissapear to? what did they use it on, it better not be us. and that that's all i have to say about that.
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Yerdaddy
01-17-2003, 08:41 AM
Didn't he give Iraq a clean bill of health just prior to '91, right before we found that they were a few months away from a nuclear weapon?
That would be news to me. If you're talking about the IAEA's work, prior to the Gulf War, that's a whole different animal than UNSCOM or UNMOVIC. The IAEA never had the mandate, or the ability to conduct intrusive inspections on any country. No country, from the US to Iraq and North Korea, was willing to submit to such inspections, so the IAEA, which is mearly a product of international agreements, was extremely limited in its ability to find and destroy prohibited weapons. Nevertheless, I've never seen an IAEA report that claimed that a country was free of prohibited weapons. Every report I've seen simply states what, within their limited mandate, they were and were not able to find. If the world decides it wants to strengthen treaties that will offer better monitoring mechanisms then it will have to have the leadership of countries like the US. So far the US is not willing to do that, (see the CTBT, Chemical Weapons Treaty, and Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaties).
If it were not for the CIA guys that are going to feed him real-time intel in the next few weeks, he'd be kicking over burkas in Iraq's garment district finding nothing but sand.
The whole point of inspections is to use intelligence from every UN member nation that is willing to give it in order to find and destroy everything they can find. UNSCOM had the latest intelligence from the US, Britain, France, Israel, Russia, and others. They are the best minds and have the best equipment the world has to offer for doing this kind of job. It's well-known that the inspectors, using the world's intelligence agencies's data, were able to destroy more of Iraq's WMD than the Gulf War and Desert Fox combined. It's a mistake to view UN inspectors as working against or in competition with US intelligence. They are a tool for the international community, of which we are a leading memeber, to disarm Iraq. (see the tables at the bottom of this report for a breakdown of weapons found and destroyed by UNSCOM: <a href="http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2002_10/iraqspecialoct02.asp" target="_blank">Iraq: A Chronology of UN Inspections And an Assessment of Their Accomplishments</a>
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TheMojoPin
01-17-2003, 09:31 AM
If it were not for the CIA guys that are going to feed him real-time intel in the next few weeks
You act like the Agency is doing the UN a "favor". As a charter member of the United Nations, it's more of an obligation to provide support in this manner, or at least it should be. Like I said, the inspectors are doing their job, and this is proof. Our government should stand firmly behind them to ensure that Iraq coughs up anything else they have. This is an indicator that we can possibly leash Iraq's WMD capabilities without a full-scale invasion that will cost too many American lives.
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Captain Rooster
01-17-2003, 10:11 AM
You act like the Agency is doing the UN a "favor".
WE ARE! THose are our agaents on the ground, our contacts, our resources. We do not have to do anything that will compromise our agents, contacts and the families.
We "owe" nothing.
Who has beter intel? The French? The Germans? I don't think so.
Yerdaddy,
I will look for who stated that Blix was the guy who gave the thumbs up to Iraq in '91 but I did hear the arugment made on the Hannity radio show, and it was not only him making the argument that the world was blind to the covert nuclear weapons dev. program that had reconstituted after the Israeli attack that crippled it.
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TheMojoPin
01-17-2003, 10:23 AM
WE ARE! THose are our agaents on the ground, our contacts, our resources. We do not have to do anything that will compromise our agents, contacts and the families.
We "owe" nothing.
Who has beter intel? The French? The Germans? I don't think so.
But given that this is a situation that we may go to war over, and our guys could be killed by the thousands (At least) if we're not sure of what Saddam has, we'd be moronic to not be over there. Look, I break it down like this: we want to know what Saddam has interms of possible WMD. We pushed the UN until we were given an "in" through them, and now we're utilizing the opporuntiy. One hand washes and needs the other. Our intel in Iraq since the last inspectors went out has been scant to nothing outside of aerial reconnaissance, so this is an opportunity for BOTH the UN and the US. Sure, we don't "have" to help the UN inspectors, but we'd be insanely foolish not to, and absolutely nothing would be accomplished by not helping them.
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Captain Rooster
01-17-2003, 10:33 AM
Believe me, I don't want a war.
I just think that we may not have found the "smoking gun" but we sure as hell have found the bullets.
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TheMojoPin
01-17-2003, 10:39 AM
I just think that we may not have found the "smoking gun" but we sure as hell have found the bullets.
Damn right. And if they were able to find those, maybe we can get out of this without a mess on our hands.
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ChickenHawk
01-17-2003, 10:53 AM
I LOVE IRAQ! GO SADDAM!
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Yerdaddy
01-17-2003, 11:58 AM
on the Hannity radio show
[Fezzy's voice]Oww no.[/Fezzy's voice]
the world was blind to the covert nuclear weapons dev. program that had reconstituted after the Israeli attack that crippled it.
I would'nt say the world was blind to it. It was Europe and the US that were assisting Iraq with its WMD programs all the way up to 1990, (more common explaination is that we were consciously allowing ourselves to be duped into helping with these programs, while our companies were soaking up the oil dollars). France and Germany were especially involved in Iraq's nuclear programs, while the US was involved with Iraq's chem/bio programs, conventional weapons systems and military intelligence in the Iran/Iraq war. The IAEA was only as able to discover the extent of these programs as the major powers wanted them to be. The fact is that even US intelligence was unaware of the extent of Iraq's nuclear program at the time of the Gulf War. It was only when the world turned against Saddam's regime and decided to send in the inspectors that US intelligence learned, (from the UN inspectors), the extent of what it did not know. Again, I want to emphasize that the IAEA, UNSCOM and UNMOVIC are not competitors with US intelligence agencies. The UN organizations are a product of the will and abilities of the major powers, especially the permanent Security Council members the US, Britain, France, Russia and China. When these countries are more interested in arming a country like Iraq, then the IAEA cannot be expected to stop it. When they want their weapons back, then they turn to the IAEA. At the same time, you will find people who will go on talk shows and blame the IAEA for not stopping Iraq to build these weapons, which is absurd. I'm going to guess that it was Paul Leventhal, Steven Dolley, Patrick Clausen, or Barton Gellman, that was on the show trying to blame the IAEA. They are the usual suspects who are out in the media spinning for war. These are smart guys, who know more than I do, but they have alterior motives, which is to undermine inspections to build support for war as the only option. The reason I give them no credibility is there are absurdities, like the IAEA being responsible for Iraq's weapons programs, that are built into their models of the Iraq situation that are put out there for the general public, but are obvious fallacies to anyone who works on the issue. (Patrick Clausen once tried to convince me and a group of GWU students that Israel didn't have nuclear weapons). You don't have to take my word for it, but I think these guys are liars and scumbags. I'm just a scumbag and a pervert. But that don't make me a bad person.
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