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Arienette

01-15-2003, 09:40 PM

IT IS GAYwow, if it's in caps, bold, and underline, then it must be true

i dont know whether or not bright eyes is technically considered to be emo, but i know that conor is one of the characters in that emo video game. so, being that bright eyes is my favorite band, i'd say yay for emo

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TeRRoR

01-15-2003, 09:46 PM

bright eyes... uh oh.

i've always wondered how people can really listen to that music. it is seriously worse then goth music. just wanna go kill yourself it seems. and conor or whatever his name is with his fake scizophrania(spelling, i know... i suck).

but the only good thing about EMO is that the girls are hot.

other then that, the rest of it is gay.

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ChrisTheCop

01-15-2003, 09:48 PM

foul-mouthed emo is better..oh--i mean, foul mouthed emo is better

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TeRRoR

01-15-2003, 09:50 PM

hey chris you tard, you forgot to put it in italics!

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01-15-2003, 09:53 PM

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ChrisTheCop

01-15-2003, 10:01 PM

if it's in caps, bold, and underline, then it must be true

I'm just following da rules...no italix mentioned.

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01-16-2003, 02:43 AM

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01-16-2003, 03:28 AM

STOP THE STUPIDITY

There is only one type of EMO that I like.

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Arienette

01-16-2003, 04:52 AM

i kinda liked that "telephone line" song...
just wanna go kill yourself it seemsjust because someone listens to sad music with thoughtul, introspective, and emotive lyrics, that does not mean they want to kill themselves. generalizations like that are very scary. there are plenty of completely fucked up, potentially suicidal people listening to metal, pop, rock or any number of other things

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01-16-2003, 08:07 AM

I love EMOs!

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JerryTaker

01-16-2003, 09:19 AM

uch, that stuff has clogged the airwaves over on WSOU, instead of the METAL they should be playing...

I know that thursday song, it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along...

and I saw Glassjaw once, when they opened for Clutch, and they got really boring...

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jratt

01-16-2003, 09:47 AM

he truth is they made EMO cause all the kids that cant swing it in hardcore have to go somewhere and that where is EMO I hate thursday anf my friend is the drummer go see a band like agnostic front and your hole life will change and if you have died black hair and were tight pants and listen to emo i bet you have a hole closet of empty anal ez bottles in your closet you fags

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TheMojoPin

01-16-2003, 09:48 AM

It was cool when "emo" meant anything from Rites of Spring to Jawbreaker. There are still a few decent so-called "Emo" acts like Bright Eyes, Alkaline Trio, The Anniversary, The Dismemberment Plan and Jimmy Eat World, but mostly run along the awful lines of Dashboard Confessional and current Weezer. Ugh.

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Zipgun

01-16-2003, 01:32 PM

so-called "Emo" acts like Brith Eyes

What's that? Like a Jew thing?

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Arienette

01-16-2003, 02:56 PM

go see a band like agnostic front and your hole life will changetake a third grade english class, and your ability to distinguish between a set of homonyms will change

i dont know why everyone's so fucking bitter. if you don't like it, listen to whatever it is you do like. why the hostility?

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TeRRoR

01-16-2003, 03:04 PM

seriously... he said it perfectly.

EMO was made seriously for all the people that couldnt handle hardcore. Emo was made for the people we beat the piss out of and they still wanted to be part of something so they found emo.

Look at a lot of the emo kids. They are all kids who were at one time hardcore kids and they basically had gotten kicked out of the scene. think i am joking? i am speaking the dead truth.

vintage t-shirts, tight jeans, cordoroy, sweaters... THEY DONT BELONG IN HARDCORE... and remember, the only reason why guys get into emo is to get girls like yourself.

if you think i am lying, trust me, i know some of the fruits that do that... and i make fun of them

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Arienette

01-16-2003, 03:26 PM

EMO was made seriously for all the people that couldnt handle hardcore
i dont know.. i know some people who are actually into both the hardcore and emo scenes. of course, they dont really fit into the image of either. i'm not saying that it never happens, but it could be that people just have different tastes, and that some people like emo, where others like hardcore (or other genres).

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ADF

01-16-2003, 04:30 PM

Emo was made for the people we beat the piss out of and they still wanted to be part of something so they found emo.

Huh? I like some Bright Eyes stuff, but I have no ideas which bands are classified as what. I'm pretty sure I don't like any "hardcore" bands, but I don't like to pigeon-hole my musical tastes into one category. Call me crazy.

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01-16-2003, 04:59 PM

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LiquidCourage

01-16-2003, 07:06 PM

Yeah, Emo's gay.

Arienette

01-16-2003, 07:07 PM

Yeah, Emo's gay.way to contribute

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TeRRoR

01-16-2003, 07:31 PM

Yeah, Emo's gay.

well he was pretty accurate... but he was wrong... he was supposed to say

YEAH, Emo's gay.

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TheMojoPin

01-16-2003, 10:04 PM

Emo was birthed out of hardcore. Emo "officially" began with Rites of Spring, who were on Dischord Records, and fronted by Guy Picciotto, who's now the co-frontman/guitarist of Fugazi. DC is the holy mecca of hardcore (Please. Don't even try to front.), and emo was forged in its fires.

Good for it...there's still some hope...look to The Dismemberment Plan.

Death Cab For Cutie are pretty nifty, too. They're from the OTHER Washington.

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jratt

01-17-2003, 03:30 AM

Emo was birthed out of hardcore

I cant agree with you...EMO was Birthed out of fear....Its not that I am Talking down to any one that is into diff music other then hardcore its just when i was in the hardcore scene there was always shit going down withe hardcore kids and emo kids ......look at it this way would you put a bunch of people that like rap in the same room with people that like country music

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Arienette

01-17-2003, 04:19 AM

I cant agree with you...EMO was Birthed out of fear....Its not that I am Talking down to any one that is into diff music other then hardcore actully, it would appear that that's exaclty what you're doing. saying that an entire genre of music developed because the people who would come to be its proponents were too scared of those who likes a related, but wholly different genre seems rather condescending.
look at it this way would you put a bunch of people that like rap in the same room with people that like country musicfirst of all, depending on the situation, sure i would. second, just because two groups clash with one another does not support your assertion that one of the two is better than the other. a person who likes rap and one who likes country may not get along well together (although, it would seem that the rap fans get along far worse internally), but why does this imply that one is better? you will find many people on either side of that argument.

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jratt

01-17-2003, 06:30 AM

first of all, depending on the situation, sure i would. second, just because two groups clash with one another does not support your assertion that one of the two is better than the other.

I didnt say one was better or worse then the other.speaking for myself only.
Let me ask you a question have you ever been to a hardcore show? for me and i am sure others that have there is a family feel to it but just like this place it takes time to make friends or be a part of a scene.Emo kids in my experinces have been stuck up dicks that dont like to follow the rules that go along with hardcore just like here there are unwriten rules that one must follow and the main one is respect....and you dont have to play or sound one way to be hardcore...I think terror will agree with me on this...
its a way of life....emo is a fad....I happen to like fugazi but put them up with minor threat and there shit

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angrymissy

01-17-2003, 06:38 AM

I listen to a lot of emo, but I've also beat the shit outta people in the pit at Pantera shows. Just because someone listens to emo, doesn't mean its becuase they can't "hang" at a hardcore show or whatever.

Anyway like I've always said, I'm old and back in my day we called it indie rock and it wasn't AS whiny

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jratt

01-17-2003, 06:49 AM

there is a big diff betwen a Pantera show and a nj
yhc show.....it is great being in the begining of a scene. you can always say i was there or i am old school...i wasnt there in tne beging of hardcore but i was there for the start of tough guy hardcore and to this day it was great watching shows gor from 10 people to over 400 what a time it was

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JerryTaker

01-17-2003, 07:06 AM

Emo kids in my experinces have been stuck up dicks that dont like to follow the rules that go along with hardcore just like here there are unwriten rules that one must follow and the main one is respect....and you dont have to play or sound one way to be hardcore...

unwritten rules? It's friggin' MUSIC! That's why I stopped going to hardcore shows, or even tolerating the music because you use elietist bullshit to justify putting on loaded boots and throwing kicks and punches in a pit

I remember Seeing Orange 9mm at the pipeline, and a bunch of hardcore bands opened for them, including E-Town Concrete, and Chaka, the singer, stopped the show and said "What the hell is this, a Kung-Fu Rally?"

Fuck it. I'd rather see live shows I can enjoy, without having to keep an eye out to catch people's feet before they knock a tooth out. I have a job to go to, shithead...

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jratt

01-17-2003, 07:19 AM

It is just my view.Its not to please any one just like you have your view.asshole E-town is agreat band and a realy nice bunch of guys if its kung fu than thats what it is going to a show you should know what what its all about...pussy

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angrymissy

01-17-2003, 07:36 AM

no offense, but i can't understand what the fuck you're trying to say
So you think you're in the middle of the ocean
Stranded on an island of your own
Or stuck in the top of a mountain
Either way you're gonna say you're all alone

And I hesitate to say that you're a liar
I never tell the truth myself
But I tried to chase you down and I got tired
So I'm leaving you to you or someone else
`Cuz you never wanna hook up in the middle
And I'd meet you there to talk if you would show
But you answer every question with a riddle
And refuse to even choose to let me go

It used to be I'd tell you all my secrets
Giving you the credit you deserve
I guess you didn't care to lose or keep it
And we never quite connected from the first
And I wish I had a way to make it better
To rearrange the world and make you smile
But it's dumb to even think I had that power
And we haven't been that close in a while
And I don't even wanna try to name it
Explain it for the one who couldn't care
`Cuz all that matters is the way you choose to frame it

And I hesitate to say that you're a liar
I never tell the truth myself
But I tried to chase you down and I got tired
So I'm leaving you to you or someone else
`Cuz you never wanna hook up in the middle
And I'd meet you there to talk if you would show
But you answer every question with a riddle
And refuse to even choose to let me go

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Ryan the Great

01-17-2003, 07:52 AM

there is a big diff betwen a Pantera show and a njRonFez.Net Message Board: TAG NOT ALLOWED.yhc show.....

Right on! njRonFez.Net Message Board: TAG NOT ALLOWED.yhc rules! i'm friends with their drummer.

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TheMojoPin

01-17-2003, 09:28 AM

Fuck it. I'd rather see live shows I can enjoy, without having to keep an eye out to catch people's feet before they knock a tooth out. I have a job to go to, shithead...

Damn right. I loved slamdancing back in the day, but then a bunch of metalhead rednecks took it and mutated it into moshing, and now it's just a waste of time.

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JerryTaker

01-17-2003, 09:38 AM

metalhead rednecks

I don't see many flailing feet at a metal show... arms, yes; Gorilla-Sized skinheads launching themselves into women so they look tough, yes. It's the flyin' feet that bug me and I usually only see them at punk/hardcore shows

When I refered to Chaka Malik, the lead singer of Orange 9mm, he was pissed that nobody could rock out to them, because they didn't want to get kicked in the face by the few shitheads dominating the already small floor...

And Jratt, I used 'shithead' to refer to the person who's foot I just dodged, not you personally...

And if the whole point of going to a show is to fight, count me out. call me a pussy if you want, but most of the ones I see doing that shit look young enough to still be on their parents' health insurance...

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jratt

01-17-2003, 10:02 AM

JerryTaker, i took that the wrong way sooooory. youre right people that are out there just to hurt someone on purpose are assholes that is ussally the meatheads that think they are cool.if you pay attention you can always see who the real kids are if they hit someone they would say sorry or give a nod or if some one falls they are the ones to pick them up i never hit any on purpose inless they deseved it and it does ruin the scene with assholes like that

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TheMojoPin

01-17-2003, 10:11 AM

It's the flyin' feet that bug me and I usually only see them at punk/hardcore shows

That's stage-diving, and yes, that started as a hardcore tradition. At least with that I can usually see someone passing overhead. The metal guys really inserted the whole "beat the shit outta the guy next to you because you CAN" mentality, which is what I can't stand, because it usally means I'll get punched in the back of the head because I'm "daring" to actually try and watch the show I paid to see. The kids today are so stupidly eager to "mosh", half the time they don't even stop to help up someone who's been knocked down, and that's just wrong. Back in "my day" (OLD), anyone went down, you made sure they were up and safe. It's just the decent thing to do. Nobody was there to get hurt.

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JerryTaker

01-17-2003, 10:11 AM

No problem, Jratt. Yeah, when I would go to a Clutch or Fear Factory (sniff) show, and someone falls in the pit, everyone nearby will stop and try to help him up, but I've also been to shows where people try to step on them, go figure...

I also haven't been to a punk/hardcore show since... 98, maybe? I don't know if it's changed any...

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JerryTaker

01-17-2003, 10:19 AM

there is stage diving and crowd surfing. I personally find that more acceptable; but I mean the "pseudo-karate" some people do in pits. It's definately not a Metal thing, and I'll admit they're more athletic than I am, because I'm not even 100% sure how they do that, but you know what? Join a Dojo or something, leave concert patrons alone...

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jratt

01-17-2003, 10:21 AM

TheMojoPin, you just said it perectly its not fun being that guy on the ground getting stepped on this new kids have brought in a new attitude that is not the same spirt its not about fighting its respect its unity its brothersisterhood(comm'in'correct)not who is a student of van dam

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TeRRoR

01-17-2003, 10:29 AM

this is always what i always say:

IF YOU DONT WANT TO GET HIT... DONT STAND NEAR THE PIT.

it is that simple. seriously, can it get any simplier then that?

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TheMojoPin

01-17-2003, 10:32 AM

IF YOU DONT WANT TO GET HIT... DONT STAND NEAR THE PIT.

it is that simple. seriously, can it get any simplier then that?

But "the pit" forms anywhere and everywhere. Half the time people don't have a choice as to whether they're in it or not, they just have to cram up because two jerkoffs decided to start swinging. You get 4 or 5 people taking up the space of twenty because they can only feel a tingle in their pee-pee if they rub knuckles on someone else's head? Please.

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TheMojoPin

01-17-2003, 10:34 AM

there is stage diving and crowd surfing. I personally find that more acceptable: but I mean the "pseudo-karate" some people do in pits. It's definately not a Metal thing

It's more of a meeting between the two. Metal moshing is about hurting through physical release, whether you try to or not. Slamdancing was about getting physical with the people around you, but not conciously trying to hit/punch/kick/push them. Some of the dances were pretty wild, lotta flailing and kicking. You get a lot of people today who take that aspect when they get into the pit and are just "dancing" instead of moshing, but at the same time are fully aware they're hitting people and simply decide to just not give a shit.

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angrymissy

01-17-2003, 10:55 AM

Back in "my day" (OLD), anyone went down, you made sure they were up and safe.

I agree. That was always the rule, when someone went down, you helped em up. Nowadays, I'm reaching down to grab someone off the floor, while everyone else is stompin on them. Its insane

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Arienette

01-17-2003, 12:47 PM

i like where this discussion is going now...
Let me ask you a question have you ever been to a hardcore show? for me and i am sure others that have there is a family feel to it but just like this place it takes time to make friends or be a part of a scene.Emo kids in my experinces have been stuck up dicks that dont like to follow the rules that go along with hardcore just like here there are unwriten rules that one must follow and the main one is respect...i have been to quite a few hardcore shows back in the day. and i do understand the sense of family that you're talking about. but that can be present at other types of shows, too. i haven't gone to so many emo shows, but the one's i've been to have generally been ok, audience-wise... i think there's often a sense of comaraderie when you get a whole bunch of people together who have something important to them in common.

i have no problem with the hardcore scene, or those who might prefer it to emo or whatever else. and i, too, would take minor threat over fugazi any day of the week (and lest we forget embrace...). see, a bright eyes loving girl isn't necessarily so far from some guy slamming into his fellow concert-goers at a youth of today show. i just hate it when people generalize so much... i can be letting my little heart break at a bright eyes show one night, and then getting all sweaty at a murphy's law show the next.

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TeRRoR

01-17-2003, 01:10 PM

i can be letting my little heart break at a bright eyes show one night, and then getting all sweaty at a murphy's law show the next.

ummm.... thats actually a written rule... you cannot go to a bright eyes show then a murphys law show...

you go to a show to cry and be sad, then you go to a show to get drunk and high and have fun?

im writing that on the bathroom wall of cbgb's next week

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jratt

01-21-2003, 04:47 AM

ummm.... thats actually a written rule... you cannot go to a bright eyes show then a murphys law show...

Murphys law are the one band that i think anybody could like here's a line from a song
"I wake up this morning and i bust a splif , go down stars and make an egg, go downtown and start the day" you gotta love these guys plus jimmy g the singer is the nicest guy in the world plus they used to have a homeless guy that played the sax and a guitar player named todd youth

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Arienette

01-21-2003, 09:33 AM

ummm.... thats actually a written rule... you cannot go to a bright eyes show then a murphys law show...

you go to a show to cry and be sad, then you go to a show to get drunk and high and have fun?

im writing that on the bathroom wall of cbgb's next weeknot just murphy's law, of course... i just think that's one of the more recent shows i went to, so it came to mind. i've probably been to more shows at cbgb than a lot of hard core hardcore kids. i'd like to know where this "rule" is written... i'd be curious to see what other hardcore covenants i'm breaking.

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