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Se7en
10-13-2002, 10:56 AM
Folks, this is why I beat my head up against the wall when it comes to the WWE.

Here's the latest bit of foolishness from Vince.

From PWTorch.com

WWE News
Report claims WWE is offering Lennox Lewis $5 million to fight Lesnar
By By Jason Powell, Torch assistant editor
Oct 11, 2002, 9:59am

U.K.'s Daily Star features a full-page story that Vince McMahon has offered Lennox Lewis $5 million to fight Brock Lesnar at next year's "No Mercy." The story also discusses other fighters who have taken part in wrestling storylines, namely Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, and Lewis, who appeared at SummerSlam '92.

And some further info:

More Lennox Lewis/WWE Details: Shoot Fight, Meetings, More
Posted By Ashish on 10.11.02
WWE and Lennox Lewis's people have had at least 2 meetings over the past 2 weeks regarding the boxer possibly taking on Brock Lesnar sometime in 2003. No deal has been reached and the only thing that has been agreed upon is to continue discussions.

At this point, it seems to be a longshot that a deal between Lewis and WWE can be reached. The main reason for this is that Lewis demands that the fight be a total shoot. While WWE does not have a problem with that, the problem comes up in regards to the rules. With Lewis being a boxer and Lesnar being a wrestler, how the rules are set up will go along way in who will actually win the bout.

The original date that was talked about was WWE No Way Out next February, but that date has been axed due to the Lennox Lewis/Vitali Klitschko Heavyweight Title fight being pushed back to February 1st. The date now being discussed is No Mercy of next year.

Traditionally, a match of this magnitude would happen at WrestleMania, but if it happens, it will be a shoot and Lewis would not want to fight Brock just 1-2 months after defending his Heavyweight Title against Klitschko.

The Lewis camp started talks with a $7.5 million dollar asking price, but obviously that price will likely come down.

Vince McMahon is said to be extremely excited over the potential Lewis/Brock shoot fight, but again, for now it seems unlikely that both sides will be able to work out a deal.

Credit: WrestlingObserver.com

My question to all of you.....do you really care? Cause I don't.

Lewis wants this as a shoot. I picture this thing being one huge abortion....partly because I don't think Lesnar can kick Lewis' ass in a shoot, wrestlers are notoriously awful in shoots...but even supposing Brock wins - what's the benefit? The WWE can parade him around saying, "He beat the boxing champ!" But it means nothing in pro wrestling. I doubt it will help Lesnar get any more over, as a monster or otherwise. The people who mark for Brock already do so. The people (like me) who are so far unimpressed with the monster crap (show me some amateur wrestling, damnit) won't care if he beats the shit out of some limey.

For a good editorial on this whole silly mess, go here http://www.puroresupower.com/upload/news.cgi?news=146 and check out Zach Arnold's op ed. It draws a good parallel between Vince McMahon & Antonio Inoki (who's pulled this shoot v. wrestler BS before), and gives a pretty good rationale as to why this match will likely fail.

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McNabbShouldDie
10-13-2002, 11:50 AM
As stupid as this sounds, I would still order this PPV. Everyone talks about how great and powerful Lesnar is, so watching him get beat down would be so funny to me.

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TheKnicks23
10-13-2002, 11:55 AM
Thats one of the dumbest things the WWE can do. They need to stop all this crap with Brock and let him earn some respect on his own. He's got a very good chance this month, a Hell in a Cell match is a very rare thing that can make a superstar. Brock could really move up in my book if he does some good stuff in that match. Let him earn some respect on his own instead of fighthing a boxer and probably losing.

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Se7en
10-13-2002, 12:31 PM
He's got a very good chance this month, a Hell in a Cell match is a very rare thing that can make a superstar. Brock could really move up in my book if he does some good stuff in that match.


Whether Lesnar comes off golden this upcoming PPV depends on one man - Undertaker.

Look, I'm no fan of Lesnar as a champ....but I would hope Undertaker does the right thing and not only put Lesnar over, but sell like he's Mick Foley incarnate for the guy.

I have my fears....it's a fact that Undertaker changed the finish of last month's PPV from a clean win by Brock to that DQ mess. I'm hoping he does what he always claims to do, that which is "best for the company", and makes Brock really look like a champ.

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TheKnicks23
10-13-2002, 12:51 PM
Look, I'm no fan of Lesnar as a champ....but I would hope Undertaker does the right thing and not only put Lesnar over, but sell like he's Mick Foley incarnate for the guy.

I have my fears....it's a fact that Undertaker changed the finish of last month's PPV from a clean win by Brock to that DQ mess. I'm hoping he does what he always claims to do, that which is "best for the company", and makes Brock really look like a champ.



Brock destroying Taker in this match could really do something. It could push the unstoppable champ image even more. Taker can really help him become a good champ and i hope he does. I'm really hoping Taker doesn't win this match, if he does then it'll be a another short title rein. I'd like to see Brock hold the strap for a good 5 months.

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jamesdiggy
10-13-2002, 06:21 PM
It's not like Lennox Lewis is Ali. I don't think wrestling fans, boxing fans, or the general public would care about a Lewis/Lesnar bout. Now a Lesnar/Serena Williams shoot, that might work.

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