The New York Jets: Over 30 Years Of Misery! [Archive]

The Blowhard

09-30-2002, 08:40 PM

Hmmm..let's see:
Charley Winner
Lou Holtz
Joe Walton
Rich Kotite
Pete Carroll
Bill Belicek
Al Groh
and now, Herm "Clueless" Edwards
And that's just the Head Coaches.
I can sum up the awful players with one name: Blair Thomas.
Come back, Joe Willie and Weeb!

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yarpwizard

09-30-2002, 11:41 PM

I'll say it even better...6 playoff apperances in 40 years...How sad.... <P>

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Gvac

10-01-2002, 02:24 AM

I would imagine it's almost as bad as being a Bengals fan.

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Ralphy Ramone

10-01-2002, 02:38 AM

You know somethings wrong with the "team" when it's more funner to be in the stands than to watch the game.

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Patches

10-01-2002, 05:21 AM

If only they had given Browning Nagle more of a shot...

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blakjeezis

10-01-2002, 05:48 AM

::sobbing:: Why, God, whyyyyyyyy?

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A.J.

10-01-2002, 06:27 AM

I would imagine it's almost as bad as being a Bengals fan.

Or a Detroit Lions fan.

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DarkHippie

10-01-2002, 10:00 AM

herm edwards isn't the problem! edwards is a fantastic coach. the problem is this:

the west coast offense is a mobile offense created to find seams in zone defenses and to over tax man to man defenses with a spread out "scattered attack" it requires multiple weapons, primarily a multi-purpose runningback (ie: roger craig), sure handed receivers (jerry rice) and a mobile quarterback (steve young). it also requires an offensive line. the Jets have neither a mobile quarterback or an offensive line. the line isn't holding up because they lost their line coach. their' qb isn't holding up because he's 38 and even when he was young he wasn't made for that kind of offense.

with the offense anemic. the defense is always on the field, no wonder by the 2nd half they are ready to pass out.

fix the offense and the defense will follow. but don't blame the one bright spot for the jets

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The Blowhard

10-01-2002, 11:06 AM

herm edwards isn't the problem! edwards is a fantastic coach. the problem is this:

Why is he a fantastic coach? He may have been a competent assistant but as a head coach he's a disaster. You mention the "West Coast Offense". If it's not a good fit for the Jets why do they implement it?
Hackett is a horrible Offensive Coordinator, Herm has to take the heat.
Herm has been called a "Defensive Guru". Well, the defense stinks. Talented players on the D (Abraham, Ellis and the LB's) are UNDERACHIEVING. That's the coaches fault. We had our "shot" with Parcells, now we must rebuild..AGAIN!

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DarkHippie

10-01-2002, 11:42 AM

Heckler: who was their coach last year?

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The Blowhard

10-01-2002, 12:18 PM

Heckler: who was their coach last year?

Oh that's right, I saw Herm in the Super Bowl victory parade! Admit it, He's in over his head.

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jamesdiggy

10-01-2002, 06:52 PM

Oh where, oh where is Johnny "Lam" Jones when you need him.

Abracadabra, Peanut Butter Sandwiches!

Jackie Sloan

10-01-2002, 06:55 PM

Hey, maybe Matt Robinson is available. He can't be any less mobile than Vinny Testacle, I mean Testaverde.

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10-01-2002, 07:01 PM

Wasn't Edwards a defensive coach? 20 games into his career as Jet H.C and he still hasn't figured out how to stop the run. I am a Vinny fan, but he always throws int. when he throws to his left. Why am I the only one picking this up? He can't throw across his body! I am 30 and my best Jet moment was halftime of the AFC Championship game in Denver. Fuckin Pathetic. I hope Tom Brady gives Belicheck herpes.

Cybersoldier

10-01-2002, 08:43 PM

I'm a jets fan, now I know how mets fans feel like, at I got the yankees for now.

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Mary

10-01-2002, 10:28 PM

Jet fan and a Met fan here, but at least we are rid of Valentine. <P>

JimboSHU

10-01-2002, 10:35 PM

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yarpwizard

10-27-2002, 06:36 PM

34 years of rebuilding... I was there today. The Jets were leading 21-6 at halftime looking good. Then as typical Jet games go, they went conservative and lost 24-21 . All I can say is

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DC Reed

10-27-2002, 06:37 PM

way to blow the game today jets.....

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Johnny4

10-28-2002, 02:27 AM

At 21-6, Jet dread overcame me and I knew they were going to lose the game. This weeks goat Wayne Chrebet. That fumble was the winning touchdown.

If I ever get real rich, I hope I'm not real mean to poor people, like I am now.

The Blowhard

01-13-2003, 07:39 AM

Same ol' same ol'.
Can we dig up Weeb and get him to coach?

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phixion

01-13-2003, 07:47 AM

im sorry i dont consider this season a waste. the jet loss to the raider's i really dont blame anyone. the raiders were just a better team. i mean im sad we lost. but i look at the way we ended the season and im more proud of that than anything else. i cant wait for next season. the jets will control the league i guarantee it unless we lose our qb during the first game of the season. the jets will own the AFC next seson!!!

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Patches

05-07-2011, 09:44 PM

win SUPERBOWL THEN WRITE BOOK.

GET IT?

Sinestro

05-08-2011, 07:05 AM

Geez...how long before Rex becomes the Patrick Ewing of the NFL guaranteeing the Jets winning the Superbowl every year he's been coach. He's 0 for 2 so far.

Tenbatsuzen

05-08-2011, 05:01 PM

win SUPERBOWL THEN WRITE BOOK.

GET IT?

Holy fuck, that's a lot of hate. Herm Edwards wrote a book too.

Tenbatsuzen

05-08-2011, 05:02 PM

Geez...how long before Rex becomes the Patrick Ewing of the NFL guaranteeing the Jets winning the Superbowl every year he's been coach. He's 0 for 2 so far.

And twice he was a half away from getting there, (second half first time, first half second time) and he's been more successful in 2 seasons than any other Jets coach in 30 years.

cougarjake13

05-11-2011, 05:37 PM

And twice he was a half away from getting there, (second half first time, first half second time) and he's been more successful in 2 seasons than any other Jets coach in 30 years.

exactly

if nothing else hes gonna go down as the 2nd best coach in jets history behind weeb

Contra

05-12-2011, 01:38 PM

Fan advice to Rex:

GET IT DONE BITCH!

Snoogans

05-12-2011, 02:11 PM

And twice he was a half away from getting there, (second half first time, first half second time) and he's been more successful in 2 seasons than any other Jets coach in 30 years.

and patrick ewing was 30 seconds away from winning in 94. point is he didnt, and now he is a joke for it

Tenbatsuzen

05-12-2011, 02:34 PM

and patrick ewing was 30 seconds away from winning in 94. point is he didnt, and now he is a joke for it

Why are you comparing a player to a coach?

Snacks

05-12-2011, 04:11 PM

Why are you comparing a player to a coach?

he talks shit as if he is a player and as if he is doing it on the field, thats why!

Tenbatsuzen

05-12-2011, 04:45 PM

he talks shit as if he is a player and as if he is doing it on the field, thats why!

I'd rather have a coach that talks shit than one who is fucking emasculated by his own organization.

Snacks

05-12-2011, 05:17 PM

I'd rather have a coach that talks shit than one who is fucking emasculated by his own organization.

nice one!

cougarjake13

05-15-2011, 12:00 PM

may be time to re name thread to over 40 years of misery

Joe Pietaro

06-03-2011, 09:56 PM

Rex is the type of guy hated by everyone except his players and team fans. If he wins, he shuts all the critics up, but he ups the ante every time he makes bold statements.

cougarjake13

06-04-2011, 06:54 AM

Rex is the type of guy hated by everyone except his players and team fans. If he wins, he shuts all the critics up, but he ups the ante every time he makes bold statements.

true but back to back afc champsionship appearance are good for a franchise not used to continued success

but if he doesnt at least break through that wall then he'll just became the afc andy reid

Joe Pietaro

06-04-2011, 03:55 PM

true but back to back afc champsionship appearance are good for a franchise not used to continued success

but if he doesnt at least break through that wall then he'll just became the afc andy reid
I'm still lamenting the firings of Walt Michaels & Bruce Coslet, so Rex can talk all the shit he wants as long as the team is competitive.

Back then, an 8-8 mark was considered a great success so I'm thoroughly enjoying the way things have been the past few years.

cougarjake13

06-05-2011, 07:15 AM

I'm still lamenting the firings of Walt Michaels & Bruce Coslet, so Rex can talk all the shit he wants as long as the team is competitive.

Back then, an 8-8 mark was considered a great success so I'm thoroughly enjoying the way things have been the past few years.

yeh you the true jets fan

all the recent bandwagoners are gonna be like the bandwagon yankee fans after they started their run

Joe Pietaro

06-11-2011, 06:40 PM

My first game at Shea, it was freezing and precipitation consisting of wet snow. The Jets were leading late against Buffalo, but Joe Ferguson threw a TD pass with 6 seconds left to lift the Bills. That was a sign of things to come.

I hate lamenting on the negative, but it comes with the territory. Here are some assorted memories that will sting for us:

*Bill Simpson's late INT
*56-3 (who else remembers that final score?)
*"Todd is God" homemade banners at Shea
*Scott Zolak's hero moment at Foxboro
*Browning Nagle (fill in your favorite infamous incident here______, starting with the fumbled snap in the 1992 season opener at Atlanta)
*Everything that happened in the 1998 AFC Championship Game after Blake Spence's blocked punt/TD
*Jeff Blake's success in Cincy
*Garrison Hearst's OT sprint
*Pat Leahy's missed FG in OT at Chicago on a:thumbup: Monday night
*Blair Thomas's fumble in the same game
*Terrence Mathis being an inch too short to corral a Hail Mary pass from Ken O'Brien's in the 1991 Wild Card game at Houston (17-10 loss)
*All that went wrong before Marino's fake spike (a 21-point lead wasn't lost on that one play)
*Mike Haight
*"The Penalty Pals"
*Dave Krieg stepping up in the pocket

Obviously, that last one had greater ramifications than all of the others combined.

06-20-2011, 04:17 PM

furie

09-02-2012, 08:21 AM

thoughts on this new wildcat offense they're waiting to unveil?

cougarjake13

09-02-2012, 08:59 AM

it'll be okay til Tebow takes over full time

newport king

09-02-2012, 10:34 AM

thoughts on this new wildcat offense they're waiting to unveil?

Hasnt worked since 2009. Ronnie Brown was the perfect back for it.

DarkHippie

02-28-2013, 05:07 PM

Jets tried out David Garrard today...why?

brettmojo

02-28-2013, 05:10 PM

Jets tried out David Garrard today...why?

ineptitude

DarkHippie

02-28-2013, 05:45 PM

What they need is a top tier running back. Greene is a good back, but if the jets are serious about ground and pound, Greene is not going to cut it.

Some talent on the right side of the OL and maybe a pass rushing OLB would be nice too.

razorboy

02-28-2013, 06:23 PM

Jets tried out David Garrard today...why?

I'd take an injured thirty-five year old Garrard over Sanchez, McElroy or Quinn.

NickyL0885

02-28-2013, 09:47 PM

I'd take an injured thirty-five year old Garrard over Sanchez, McElroy or Quinn.

I'd rather Matt Cassel.

I would deal Revis to SF for picks or picks and LaMichael James. Jets apparently want to pair someone with Bilal Powell. James would be a good compliment, in that he is speedy. Powell would be more the power back. But I agree with Craig Carton today, in that the new GM better not be hoping for a 4-12 season, just so he can fire the coach and gut the team. I'd hate to deal Revis, but if we can get multiple picks, you do it. SF has a ton, and I think they'd give them up for Revis.

hanso

03-01-2013, 08:55 AM

I'd take an injured thirty-five year old Garrard over Sanchez, McElroy or Quinn.

He has skills when in shape.. McEmpire! .. Brady Quinn joins the fold

Snoogans

03-01-2013, 09:19 AM

alex smith goes for a 2nd and 5th round conditional pick and the fuckin jets dont even ask? Bah, just sign David Garrard who hasnt even played football in a year. i bet you coulda got alex smith for Revis. I bet the niners woulda taken a chance. fuckin jets

Snoogans

03-01-2013, 09:30 AM

DarkHippie

03-01-2013, 01:47 PM

i just read that the jets have 16.25 mill locked up in QBs this season. Thats just over 14% of the salary cap and that only includes Sanchez, Tebow, and McIllroy. maybe just leave in sanchez for 1 more year and draft someone? I dont see how you could be only 5 mill under the cap after cutting half your team, and still be wanting to spend even 1 dollar on QBs

I wish they could just dump Sanchez and Tebow and go with McElroy. I don't think he's the answer, but he scored a 43 on the Wonderlic test, which makes him Big Bang Theory smart. Give him time, and he will improve to the point where he's not awful.

Meanwhile, take all that extra money and get a premium running back and ROG. I even ok with dishing Revis. Cromartie is a step down, but if we can get a 1st and 3rd for Revis, it's worth it.

Snoogans

03-01-2013, 05:46 PM

I wish they could just dump Sanchez and Tebow and go with McElroy. I don't think he's the answer, but he scored a 43 on the Wonderlic test, which makes him Big Bang Theory smart. Give him time, and he will improve to the point where he's not awful.

Meanwhile, take all that extra money and get a premium running back and ROG. I even ok with dishing Revis. Cromartie is a step down, but if we can get a 1st and 3rd for Revis, it's worth it.

vince young got a 6 on the wonderlic test and I would start him over McElroy. that shit doesnt matter. I knew dudes that were completely retarded who would perfectly understand anything having to do with reading a defense. You dont have to be book smart to be football smart, and in turn, you arent necessarily football smart if you are book smart.

If I was the jets, I would trade revis for draft picks, even if its some shitty 3rd round pick, and just roll this season with sanchez and whoever else and just let all the money come off and start over in 2014

Snoogans

03-01-2013, 05:49 PM

I wish they could just dump Sanchez and Tebow and go with McElroy. I don't think he's the answer, but he scored a 43 on the Wonderlic test, which makes him Big Bang Theory smart. Give him time, and he will improve to the point where he's not awful.

Meanwhile, take all that extra money and get a premium running back and ROG. I even ok with dishing Revis. Cromartie is a step down, but if we can get a 1st and 3rd for Revis, it's worth it.

there is no extra money. When you cut a guy in the NFL, the prorated bonuses and shit hit the cap. Sanchez has a 13 mill cap hit but if you cut him, he still hits this years cap for almost 12 million and then you would still need to pay someone else to be a QB even if its a backup. You might as well just can this next year and take the high draft pick

hanso

03-02-2013, 08:59 AM

They should get Te'o and the woman kicker/punter that would rule.

cougarjake13

03-02-2013, 09:46 AM

They should get Te'o and the woman kicker/punter that would rule.

it seems like a jets thing to do

hanso

03-13-2013, 09:22 AM

They are gathering a nice collection of quarterbacks.

spoon

03-13-2013, 03:33 PM

quite

looks like the SD offensive line

cougarjake13

03-13-2013, 06:01 PM

They are gathering a nice collection of quarterbacks.

and none are any good

hanso

03-15-2013, 08:42 AM

The Jets lost their fifth starter in free agency ...time to sign someone of note?

Snoogans

03-15-2013, 09:34 AM

considering how terrible the jets were, is this really a bad thing?

newport king

03-15-2013, 01:33 PM

Dustin Keller is awesome for about 2 weeks and then they seem to forget about him.

cougarjake13

03-15-2013, 02:05 PM

Dustin Keller is awesome for about 2 weeks and then they seem to forget about him.

more to do with shitty qbs then him
not saying he's a gronk but he's above average

DarkHippie

03-17-2013, 03:39 PM

They are gathering a nice collection of quarterbacks.

There's only one man that can save the Jets:

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Snoogans

03-17-2013, 05:55 PM

There's only one man that can save the Jets:

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fixed that for you

hanso

03-17-2013, 09:07 PM

more to do with shitty qbs then him
not saying he's a gronk but he's above average

Better team mates would help also

Get the Folk out

cougarjake13

03-18-2013, 03:49 AM

Better team mates would help also

last year yeh but in years past he had good wrs and decent rb

El Mudo

03-18-2013, 03:53 AM

hanso

03-26-2013, 07:52 AM

Don't let pat white get away to the niners

hanso

04-02-2013, 09:17 PM

hanso

04-10-2013, 09:35 AM

Only the Jets would put aside 3 Mil. for a hurt player to just show up to preseason activites, one who is said to be on trade block btw

hanso

04-10-2013, 10:22 AM

Three different $1 million bonuses (roster, reporting, and workout) depend on Revis participating in at least 80 percent of the offseason workouts.

ok more than just show up

Snoogans

04-10-2013, 12:05 PM

Three different $1 million bonuses (roster, reporting, and workout) depend on Revis participating in at least 80 percent of the offseason workouts.

ok more than just show up

its in his contract. They threatened not to pay him if he doesnt show. And 1 million of it is the roster bonus that hit 3 weeks ago, they just dont have to actually pay it til end of june.