I think RAW is getting worse!

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Yeah, this might be just me here but I do think that the "RAW brand" is getting bad.....and quick! Why all of a sudden does RVD drop out of the title picture and back into mid-card land? Kane going into the main event at No Mercy vs. Trips? Does this mean Kane and Hurricane will drop the tag titles then? Getting rid of the IC title? Booker T forever in mid-card land? What the hell? It just seems like the show is taking a dive while Smackdown is producing some great great matches. Granted I am getting a tad bored with Brock/Taker, the mix of Benoit, Angle, Edge, Guererro and Mysterio is damn good but all the ring technicians seem to be on Smackdown and all the heavyweights on RAW. Anyone else notice how many times RAW was referred to as Monday Night Raw? And everytime Monday Night FDootball was mentioned I elt like checking out the score. Maybe I am being to picky but I just wonder where this brand extension is going. A lot of questions here and I realise there is a rebuilding going on but things just look bleak.

and one more thing, Does anyone else see this "push" of Randy Orton going the way the Rock did when he first showed up with all of this 3rd generation business and making him seem like the second coming of the Rock? No offense to him but I just see fans hating him in no time and Orton getting over as a major heel.
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This message was edited by fluffernutter on 9-30-02 @ 11:38 PM

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Yeah, this might be just me here but I do think that the "RAW brand" is getting bad.....and quick!

I don't think it's really getting that much worse.

Why all of a sudden does RVD drop out of the title picture and back into mid-card land? Kane going into the main event at No Mercy vs. Trips?

I'm hoping that sometime between now & the PPV, they'll do something to change it to HHH v. RVD. Or something. Kane's an okay guy, but he shouldn't be the one near or in the main event of a PPV.

Getting rid of the IC title? Booker T forever in mid-card land?

Getting rid of the IC title is stupid. Because the HHHater in me knows that it's just going to be done so that HHH will have the only title, and NO ONE else will ever get their hands on it until his steroid-riddled ass tears another muscle.

Booker T is such a sad case. The guy's over with the fans, and talented. Why they don't go ahead and push him, I'll never know.

And everytime Monday Night FDootball was mentioned I elt like checking out the score.

This had me cringing. It's pitiful. They might as well have just had JR scream, "We're getting our asses kicked in the ratings. PLEASE don't turn the channel!"

and one more thing, Does anyone else see this "push" of Randy Orton going the way the Rock did when he first showed up with all of this 3rd generation business and making him seem like the second coming of the Rock? No offense to him but I just see fans hating him in no time and Orton getting over as a major heel.

They're really pissing me off with that, because that's the reaction they WANT. They WANT to turn him into the next Rock, but the problem is that Rock was charismatic enough to make the heel turn work. Plus he had to be turned heel by default, and he got so goddamn good at it, the fans started to love him despite that. With the Orton push, it just kind of....repulses me. It's so blatantly calculated it's really infuriating. It's all so terribly disingenous. Maybe I'm wrong, but I highly doubt Orton can pull off playing a good heel once the turn happens.

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Rosey and Jamal are fucking awful and Triple H is still bad. That's the two things that really bug me about Raw.

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Yeah, this might be just me here but I do think that the "RAW brand" is getting bad.....and quick!

Did you just realize this? Wow, you are slow.

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I dont think booker T, for a title for the same reason they never did with jake roberts in the 80's and the undertaker in the early to mid 90's, because he is so over with the fans he does not need a belt to prove that he is over with the fans.
RVD is rumored to wrestle Flair at the next PPV that is the reason for his semi de-pushing. But i think they know RVD can carry anyone to a good match and him beating Flair only helps him with "quality victories" when he does eventually get the title shot.
I would rather have a slow build on RAW to the RVD v. HHH feud then one over and done with in a month...I see the final match with these two sometime around Royal Rumble....
I honestly think the WWE is building with RVD, Jericho and HHH the same way they did the Austin, taker, kane feud before raw blew up.
I think the main problem w/ the WWE right now is a lack of a tag division---the WWE has always been good when they have a solid tag division to build on
of course thats just my opionion

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Rosey and Jamal are fucking awful and Triple H is still bad. That's the two things that really bug me about Raw.


I couldn't agree more, Rosie and Jamal are FUCKING TERRIBLE. Didn't anyone else see when one of the fat fucks were too slow to get break up the count. That was unexcusable. And now HHH thinks hes hot shit because he can do a sleeper. Pshhhhhh...HUNTER ITS NOT A FUCKING HARD MOVE TO DO, AND IT MAKES YOUR MATCHES WORSE. So now he has a sleeper, a neckbreaker, and a knee to the face. Thats our world champ.

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Did you just realize this? Wow, you are slow.


Thanks for the tooling :) No, it is not a matter of being slow but just something I hate to admit to myself. I started to get irritated earlier this year but then the brand extension happened and I though all was getting better, or so I thought. I enjoyed it there for a while but the Jamal and Rosey running in and killing whoever got old quick, HLA was the thing that really set me off and all the Monday night competition bashing was the last straw. I thought RAW had broadcast as if it were the only show on tv and that was how it should be. Mentioning other things and bashing the competitions just makes one look desperate.


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