Best Lyricist

[CovDiesel]

I think Adam Duritz from Counting Crows is amazing... any opinions?

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[fatylvr20]

Scott Weiland of STP anyone?
a fav of mine would be Anthony keidis RHCP

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[Zipgun]

Paul Westerberg and Dave Pirner.

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[Aggie]

i thought you were talking about rap...in that case i would say biggie.

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[pinkyfloyd]

Roger Waters, if we're talking old school.

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[TheKnicks23]

i thought you meant rap too, if so its got to be Nas "I'm crowned the best lyricist" Even he thinkgs so

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[Recyclerz]

Paul Westerberg was/is great but I'll punch my chad for Elvis Costello <P>

You're only young once but you can be immature forever!

[Contra]

either pun, biggie, or Em


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[TheMojoPin]

KRS-One, Mos Def...Latryx...

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[Patches]

Eddie Vedder has wrote the best lyrics music has seen in the last 12 years.

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[TheMojoPin]

Costello for the first four albums. Westerberg forever. Morrissey is a gawd. Thom Yorke's good at tossing a line or two...Jarvis Cocker is a mod poet genius. Just check my sig quote...

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[TheGameHHH]

Aggie: I'd say Biggie, Eminem, Dre, or Tupac...oh wait, and Jay-Z <P>

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[F1Gm3nT]

yo... you seriosly wanna know about hot lyrics... I got mad peeps with deep lyrics
Rap/Hip-Hop
Mos DEf (any song)
Remedy (hear "never again" it's about the holocost)
Noreaga (hear "sometimes")
Tribe called quest
De La Soul
DmX (somepeople thinks he sucks... but pay atention to words he spits out)
Biggie
2 pac
Ludacris
Eminem (gotta admit the kid got style)
Any Wu-tang member ( my favs Ghost Face, Gza, Raekwon, Rza AKA BobbY DigitaL)
Chuck D
Jay-Z
Nas
Mob Deep
LL
Roots Manuva (jamaican out of England)
Cypress Hill
Outkast

Other stylez:
Shannon Hoon (Blind Melin -R.I.P.)
Guy form Tool/Perfect Circle
311
Radiohead
Peral Jam
Trent Reznor

jungle/Drum n Bass MC's
Shabadee
Tc Izlam
Mc Skibadee
Chicaboo

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[Jobberific]

i thought you were talking about rap...in that case i would say biggie.


I don't know where this comes from. The guy had one good album, Ready to Die. I heard this underground cat on a mix tape, and I wish I knew his name, and he said "and now hip hop don't respect you less you platinum or dead." Thats so true.

if so its got to be Nas


Nas is great when he's on his game. "Illmatic" is a classic and "I Gave you Power" is, in my opinion, one of the best hip hop songs of all time. y only problem with Nas is when hes not on his game, which happens more often then not, he's just awful.

I gotta say, as far as hip hop in concerned, bet lyricit awards have to go to Rakim, Chuck D, Black Thought, Mos Def, Talib Kwelie (Listen to the song "Four Women", its amazing) El-P from Company Flow, Common and a cat that I don't think gets nearly enough credit...Redman.

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[fatty]

I don't know where this comes from. The guy had one good album, Ready to Die.


niggas press their luck an, they get a but fuckin,
straight up the ass raw dog with the rash and i don't fuck with the condom.
the condom is a problem from the aids getting sprayed.
diseases big pleases mc's across the seas it's just the way i crush my prey hey.
i'm crazy and deranged, blowin niggas out the frame simple and plain.
but getting back, to the black rhinocerus of rap, big took a loss how proposterous is that nigga?

biggie is the greatest lyricist of all time. every album he had is the money.

oh yeah, and eddie vedder and shannon hoon are incredible.

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[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

Paul Westerberg

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[DarkHippie]

how have we gotten this far without anyone mentioning Bob Dylan or John Lennon?

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[jestah]

How can Rakim be left off that list of lyricists??



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[The Mad Mongo]

Rap is easy the make good lyrics. All they do is talk over a beat that doesnt even match the beat they are talking. Its much harder to make good lyrics and try to place them in a song that isnt rap. And alot of these rappers dont even right their own stuff. I could rap einsteins therory of relativity over a shitty stolen sample and you guys would think i was great

[TheMojoPin]

John Lennon?

Because "Imagine" could be written by a team of retarded midgets.

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[jestah]

That actually depends on how you write music, any music. Some people like myself write lyrics first then add music...others, do the reverse. Trust me, it's hard as hell.



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[TheMojoPin]

I could rap einsteins therory of relativity over a shitty stolen sample and you guys would think i was great

Hi, welcome to the 21st century. I regret to inform you that you've lost.

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"You can tell some lies about the good times you've had/But I've kissed your mother twice and now I'm working on your dad..."
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[F1Gm3nT]

Rap is easy the make good lyrics. All they do is talk over a beat that doesnt even match the beat they are talking
when I meet you I'm gonna throw down some beats... I wanna see you "talk".. I wanna see you come up with some hot lyrics and rhymes like these guys do
Rap is poetry... and well Biggie... the thing about Biggie... all his songs were really free styles... they were never written down.
but as good as biggie was... welll fatty I'm sorry but I do have to say that... Tupac is up there tied with him... always used to love the flow that dog had
Rahkim... true that... mah bad that I forgot him

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[philby]

Tom Waits

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[Pootertoot]

Kermit the Frog was the original freestyler. There's a problem on Muppet Babies? He's got a song.

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[Coco]

Best lyricist of all time without a doubt - Bob Dylan (he's a genius). I know even the Beatles were inspired by him. I Love the guy! I don't think there has been anyone since that has come closer to him.

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[Michael Fury]

Townes Van Zant. In hip-hop, Jay-Z.




Hey, two million Budweisers can't be wrong .. .

[Knowledged_one]

Jay-Z lyricist he blows
Ludacris not a lyricist

Best:
Rza aka Bobby Digital
Andre 3000
Method Man
Talib Kweli
Black Thought
Common
Pharoah Monch
Mos Def
Pharcyde
Erykah Badu
Inspektah Deck
KRS-One
Chuck D from Public Enemy
Cam'ron's not to bad
Keith Murray

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[philby]

hey (so-called) knowledged one.
ever listen to anyone who is not black or a (c)rapper?

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[TheMojoPin]

ever listen to anyone who is not black or a (c)rapper?

That's so, so sad.

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[philby]

why is that so so sad?
do you confine your listening to one race/form of music?

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[Gvac]

Bob Dylan, Tom Waits, Steve Forbert, and Lyle Lovett.

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[Knowledged_one]

Whoa whoa whoa
Where do you get off juding what i listen to without knowing a thing about me.
But since you want to get into this lets go
1. Calling rap (c)rap is something my dad would say.
2. Lumping rap together as just black is absolutely ridiculous, unless of course you are racist which is what im guessing here. Why does one have to be black to listen to rap. Thats like saying whites only listen to rock music you ignorant tard.
As far as lyricist go i consider a rap musicians only since the style that they use to sing is more lyrical then most rock singers. In fact my opinion is that rockers tend more to sing songs. While rappers tend to be more lyrical in their songs, since they use hooks more then most rock music groups
But to let you know i also enjoy the following:
Sublime
Nirvana
Offspring
Pink Floyd
Bob Marley
Green Day
System of a Down
and others
In fact more rap singers listen to rock and quote them as influences then you may think, but i guess when you are to busy spouting of ignorant statements then doing research its understandable.
So dont judge me when you dont know s**t about me, you mean nothing to me, you are nothing to me. Bottom Line

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[DarkHippie]

Townes Van Zant
You may be my new best friend.

Adding to my list:

Townes van Zant
steve earle
elvis costello
woddy guthrie
bruce springsteen
tom waits
dar williams
jim morrisson
paul simon
hank williams
ani difranco
ray davies
more too come . . .

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[fatylvr20]

Pharohe monch (just listen to his early work with organized konfusion). Kool Keith has to be there. Jobberrific my new best friend for mentioning EL-P of Company Flow. ATCQ fav.
As for rock...radiohead, alice in chains(AIC fan since day 1 layne and jerry), stp,RHCP(kedis),REM,nirvana(cobain),pearljam(eddie )
and hey what about rage against the machine?zach

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[A.J.]

Nanker Phlege (aka The Glimmer Twins)

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Neil Peart of RUSH

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[Zipgun]

Nanker Phlege


Fantastic!

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[TheMojoPin]

The Frogs.

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[Jobberific]

Oh, where to begin...
How can Rakim be left off that list of lyricists?

If you look at my original post, he's the first on my list.

niggas press their luck an, they get a but fuckin,
straight up the ass raw dog with the rash and i don't fuck with the condom.
the condom is a problem from the aids getting sprayed.
diseases big pleases mc's across the seas it's just the way i crush my prey hey.
i'm crazy and deranged, blowin niggas out the frame simple and plain.
but getting back, to the black rhinocerus of rap, big took a loss how proposterous is that nigga?

biggie is the greatest lyricist of all time


The man DEFINITELY had better verses than that one to try to prove your point. usi is subjective so your opinion is completely valid, I just don't see it. I can't compare that verse to one like this.

Talib Kweli from "For women"
A daughter come up in Georgia, ripe and ready to plant seeds,
Left the plantation when she saw a sign even thought she can't read
It came from God and when life get hard she always speak to him,
She'd rather kill her babies than let the master get to 'em,
She on the run up north to get across that Mason-Dixon
In church she learned how to be patient and keep wishin',
The promise of eternal life after death for those that God bless
She swears the next baby she'll have will breathe a free breath
and get milk from a free breast,
And love beeing alive,
otherwise they'll have to give up being themselves to survive,
Being maids, cleaning ladies, maybe teachers or college graduates, nurses, housewives, prostitutes, and drug addicts
Some will grow to be old women, some will die before they born,
They'll be mothers, and lovers who inspire and make songs,
(But me, my skin is brown and my manner is tough,)
(Like the love I give my babies when the rainbow's enuff,)
(I'll kill the first muthafucka that mess with me, I never bluff)
(I ain't got time to lie, my life has been much too rough,)
(Still running with barefeet, I ain't got nothin' but my soul,)
(Freedom is the ultimate goal,
life and death is small on the whole, in many ways)
(I'm awfully bitter these days
'cuz the only parents God gave me, they were slaves,)
(And it crippled me, I got the destiny of a casualty,)
(But I live through my babies and I change my reality)
(Maybe one day I'll ride back to Georgia on a train,)
(Folks 'round there call me Peaches, I guess that's my name.)
But its al good, to each his own I guess.

Jobberrific my new best friend for mentioning EL-P of Company Flow


Yeah, Company Flow is great and El-p's solo album is fantanstic.

Oh, and Mojo
Because "Imagine" could be written by a team of retarded midgets


This might be the funniest thing I've read all day. And oh so true.

As far as not hip hop artists are concerned I gotta say Tom Waites, Paul Simon, Johnny Cash, and Prince are some of my favs.

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[philby]

In fact more rap singers listen to rock and quote them as influences then you may think, but i guess when you are to busy spouting of ignorant statements then doing research its understandable.
So dont judge me when you dont know s**t about me, you mean nothing to me, you are nothing to me. Bottom Line
first off jack-ass I was commenting on your original list, all rap associated.
Of course they site rock influences, who's fucking music do you think they rip-off for their "beats".
you can throw around terms like racist if you want, but you are possibly the most ignorant person I have come across on this board. calling yourself knowledged one is like someone saying "i'm smart" when, of course, you are not.

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[fatty]

The man DEFINITELY had better verses than that one to try to prove your point.


Straight up honey really I'm askin
Most of these niggaz think they be mackin but they be actin
Who they attractin with that line, "What's your name what's your sign"
Soon as he buy that wine I just creep up from behind
And ask what your interests are, who you be with
Things to make you smile, what numbers to dial
You gon' be here for a while, I'm gon' go call my crew
You go call your crew
We can rendezvous at the bar around two
Plans to leave, throw the keys to Lil Cease
Pull the truck up, front, and roll up the next blunt
So we can steam on the way to the telly go fill my belly
A t-bone steak, cheese eggs and Welch's grape
Conversate for a few, cause in a few, we gon' do
What we came to do, ain't that right boo [truuuueee]
Forget the telly we just go to the crib
and watch a movie in the jacuzzi smoke l's while you do me

if you dont' want to give he the best he's at least got the most style.

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[Patches]

Wow bored fights.. I mean board fights.

Anyway, I've already chimed in my vote for Eddie Vedder for the rock world, but for rap I am surprised no one has mentioned Guru. I am not too big on rap, but he is one of a handful I have a lot of respect for as an Artist

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[fatylvr20]

thats a good point patches...guru of gangstarr along with premier's beats an unfuckwitable combo.kool g rap, and one i noticed wasnt mentioned BIG L. very high on my list check his first album(forgot the name) and his second "the big picture'

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[TheMojoPin]

but for rap I am surprised no one has mentioned Guru.

Me too. It's said that Gifted Unlimited can drop a fantastic solo album, and nobody notices...

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[Drudge Jr.]

i know you're going to call me stupid, but the hives actually have some great lyrics. unfortunatly the songs with better lyrics aren't as memorable so you'll rarely hear them.

best lyricist ever though is bob dylan

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