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philby
09-18-2002, 06:30 AM
Next to eric clapton, the 2nd most overrated guitar player in history choked on vomit and died 32 years ago today.
After his death he has "released" about 2000 recordings of the same 50 "songs". His and tupac's bones argue over release dates.


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A.J.
09-18-2002, 06:41 AM
Why do you say Hendrix is overrated?

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philby
09-18-2002, 06:43 AM
He was playing basic blues licks through distortion. Hooker, Waters, King etc did it years before with barely any notice.
Setting your guitar on fire/breaking it/playing it with your teeth is not musically valid. It is showmanship, which has nothing to do with ability.

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A.J.
09-18-2002, 06:49 AM
True but following your logic, there hasn't been an original guitarist since those bluesmen.

Hendrix's greatness, IMO, wasn't just his flash. The guy was a phenomenal rhythm guitarist as well.

He also revolutionized the role of the guitar in music by using it to create new sounds (with the help of Roger Mayer and Eddie Kramer).

I'll agree with you on Clapton (to a point) but I've yet to see a guitarist who hasn't been influenced in some way by Hendrix.

I respect your opinion but respectfully disagree.

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philby
09-18-2002, 07:02 AM
One of the things about Hendrix that annoys me is that the record company basically forced the white guys(noel redding/mitch mitchell)on him to make him more "palatable" to the "masses".
He accepted the situation and as soon as he got the chance, he dumped their asses.
And if you listen to the stuff recorded after that, you will hear that he is nothing more than a basic blues player.
Not great, but good.

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Gvac
09-18-2002, 04:06 PM
I never judge a guitarist by how much technical ability he has or displays. It's much more than that; it's the feel, the way he can play just the right note at just the right time to punctuate a song.

Chuck Berry made a career playing the same song over and over again, but you know what? It's a GREAT fucking song.

I'd listen to Chuck over Yngwie Malmsteen or any of those over-slick guitar boys any day.

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Zipgun
09-18-2002, 04:30 PM
First of all, if you think he was so "overrated", why even make a thread?

Secondly...He played a bit more than three chord blues. If you can't play it, then you have no business criticizing it. So to say that Jimi was overrated is to say that Stevie Ray Vaughn was just a copycat of an overrated guitarist?

He was playing basic blues licks through distortion. Hooker, Waters, King etc did it years before with barely any notice

That's because at the time, they were not promoted to white audiences as widespread as Jimi was. That's a record industry problem, not Jimi's. They were also doing that decades before Jimi. Big difference in eras and what was acceptable to mass (primarily white) audiences. And if you think that those guys weren't ripping EACH OTHER off, you're deaf. Hell, those guys wouldn't be anywhere if it weren't for being able to rip off Robert Johnson and not get sued for it. Contracts for the artists didn't exist back then as far as copyright, so they ripped each other off like nobody's business.

As gvac pointed out, it isn't so much about technical ability as much as it is about how it makes you feel and the emotion it pulls.

Sure, Steve Vai, Buckethead, Joe Satriani, Malmsteen etc... are all technical virtuosos. But they're also unlistenable. Not to mention, most of today's shredders, do not sing either. Jimi played til his fingers bled and sang at the same time.

He was also very honoring to his influences and heroes and never failed to mention them. Very humbling.

You're also forgetting him being an innovator. Did anyone use feedback like that before him? No. Was anyone else using a double stack at full volume and only using the volume knob on the guitar itself to control it? No. He tried to put a fucking speaker underwater to see how it would sound, and since it couldn't be done, Leslie invented a rotating speaker cabinet FOR him.

One of the things about Hendrix that annoys me is that the record company basically forced the white guys(noel redding/mitch mitchell)on him to make him more "palatable" to the "masses".
He accepted the situation and as soon as he got the chance, he dumped their asses.


Can you back that up with proof? As far as I've ever read, he did not have a bad relationship with Mitch Mitchell and Noel Redding. One of the finest rhythm sections ever. There were directions they all wanted to go and they didn't coincide.


Remember...You didn't just listen to Jimi Hendrix...

You had The Jimi Hendrix Experience.


I respect your right to have your opinion, I just disagree with it.

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TheGameHHH
09-18-2002, 04:49 PM
According to my high school english teacher, he's still alive playing in the subways of Boston.

IT'S TIME TO PLAY THE GAME-AHHH!

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