O&A article in Post hints at future problems for WNEW

[furie]

August 20, 2002 -- "Opie and Anthony's" live radio show was yanked off the air yesterday as WNEW-FM's owner fretted over the shock jocks' promotion of a sex stunt in St. Patrick's Cathedral.
Meanwhile, a federal regulator called for possibly revoking the station's license.

Instead of a new show, a rebroadcast of a previously aired "Opie and Anthony" show ran amid mounting criticism of the foul-mouthed duo's sponsorship of the on-air sex contest that led to the arrests of a Virginia couple and a show producer last Thursday.

"The show is in rebroadcast as the company looks into the matter," said a spokesman for station owner Infinity Broadcasting Inc. The move came the same day that Infinity named its new president, John Fullam.

But Infinity's probe might be superseded by an investigation by the Federal Communications Commission, which is reviewing a complaint about the stunt from the Catholic League advocacy group.

FCC Commissioner Michael Copps said he expected that the FCC probe and possible sanctioning of the station will "be on the fast track," and advocated harsh punishment if WNEW is found to have violated broadcast rules.

"I have received many outraged e-mails and phone calls complaining about" the stunt, said Copps. "I have forwarded each of the complaints to our enforcement bureau for action."

Noting that the FCC is responsible for enforcing laws banning "obscene, indecent or profane" broadcast, Copps said "I take this responsibility with the utmost seriousness."

"If these complaints and press accounts prove true, this commission should consider the strongest enforcement action possible against this station, up to and including revocation of the station's license," Copps said.

Loretta Lynn Harper and Brian Florence were charged with public lewdness after police said ushers saw Harper with her pants down and Florence near her with his fly open just feet from worshippers observing the Feast of the Assumption. Both are free on $500 bail.

Also nabbed, and ticketed on a charge of acting in concert with public lewdness, was "Opie and Anthony" producer Paul Mercurio, who was using a cell phone to provide live, on-air commentary of the frolic.

Opie and Anthony - whose real names are Anthony Cumia and Gregg Hughes - chuckled about the arrests on their Friday broadcast. But WNEW management apologized for the incident.

Joe Zwilling, spokesman for the Catholic Archdiocese of New York, said "I'll let the FCC determine" what it should do. "I'm doing whatever I can not to give these two individuals any more free publicity."
See, what I don't like is the FCC possibly revoking WNEW's license. That would be an obvious problem for Ron & Fez.

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[MrMarcus]

Do you all realize that the last show ever of O&A may be about Billy's Bombing in Red BanK?

How crazy is that?

[Coco]

I find Ron and Fez so different from O&A. I haven't listened to O&A in months. I don't find them funny, just really offensive especially to women.

It's too bad if Ron and Fez have to suffer in anyway because of O&A. I know that O&A's ratings were slipping, but couldn't they come up with a more intelligent stunt than having 2 people have sex in St. Patrick's? How pathetic!

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[Mike from Bklyn]

I read off a link on the O&A message board that GM Ken Stevens was suspended. I don't how true any of it is though.

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[philby]

I read off a link on the O&A message board
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[Steels]

So this means no R & F until further notice? Any more best of's and they may have to pull old Ron & Ron shows to get by....

Sorry....Your just not terribly important to me....

[furie]

I think R&F will be fine and unchanged as long as WNEW doesn't lose it's license.

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[FelixDasGato]

as long as WNEW doesn't lose it's license

Watch MSNBC @ 7:00 there will be a report on the WNEW license beign up for review

[Jackie Sloan]

O & A is the 2nd best show on NEW. This is what, the 3rd Sex for Sam? Yeah, the FCC and the catholic hierarchy can be trusted. I say they'e all lying scumbags! Catholic......lying kid touchers...I trust O & A more than I trust priests and bishops and cardinals and all those ass holes.

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[furie]

Watch MSNBC @ 7:00 there will be a report on the WNEW license beign up for review


i'll still be at work. someone post the nuts and bolts of the broadcast.

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arrests of a Virginia couple and a show producer last Thursday.

Paul is a comedian, I believe, not a producer.

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[philby]

More Fallout From Sex Stunt: Opie & Anthony On 'Vacation'

The WNEW/New York afternoon talkers and Westwood One syndicated personalities are off at least through the end of this week after news broke of their contest encouraging couples to have sex in the city's riskiest places: the couple who had their encounter in St. Patrick's Cathedral - just feet from worshippers - were even arrested. At press time, officials at Westwood One were unable to confirm if Opie & Anthony's time off was scheduled or an enforced vacation.

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[boatail]

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/ny-ent-shockjocks0820.story?coll=ny%2Dtop%2Dheadlines this article tells of suspension of both jeremy coleman and ken k stevens <P>

[Danito2000]

A live show tonight!!! :o)

[Katylina]

From Foundry:
Want to see a typical Email submission from the last 72 hours? Of course you do.

"Dude!!! What happened to O&A??!?! Did they get fired?!?! Please tell me...I swear I won't tell anyone!!?!?!"

Yeah, that's pretty much been EVERY other letter I've received since last Friday

Here's what I can tell you (maybe it'll put some of you at ease:

1. No one has been fired (at least not yet anyway)...and it looks doubtful that anyone will be.
2. If Op and Ant aren't on the air, chances are it has SOMETHING to do with what's been in the news for the past few days. They're not on vacation, and no one's taking a sick day (in case you were wondering, that is).
3. When the sh*tstorm blows over (or starts to blow over), that's when you'll hear from them.
4. No one (other than the couple from Virginia and Paul Mecurio) has been arrested with regards to the incident at St. Patrick's Cathedral.

That's about all that's certain for now. More as it comes.

Just to throw in my two cents (not like anyone asked for it), I think the biggest mistake that was made here was that Op and Ant gave the Catholic church a big target to focus on so they could divert attention away from the scandalous behavior that has been associated with so many priests in recent months. I'm not saying that to make excuses, but it's just really easy for the Catholic church to make a big stink about the two rubes who were in their Cathedral just so they don't have to endure any more scrutiny about the conduct of their own priests. It's going to be very interesting to see how this all pans out...and to see if we all have jobs once this crap blows over. Unemployment line, get ready!


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[Death Metal Moe]

The Church Sucks. 2 people have sex in the place, and they call the cops.

But molest boys in the back, and you're just moved to another Church.

FUCK YOU.

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[HordeKing1]

These nutty groups have been complaining to the FCC for years to no avail. The FCC are a bunch of religious kooks themselves, but all their best efforts had no effect on Stern. Similarly it will have no effect on WNEW or o and a.

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[A.J.]

Here's an article from the Washington Post, FYI:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40683-2002Aug20.html

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[schmega]

ron, being the great Jets qb that he is, metioned o&a are fine. well, not exactly o&a, rather lenny & bruce. if jeremy k coleman and ken k stevens were suspended, r&f woulda said something. maybe they wouldnt even be on the air.

[pinkyfloyd]

Go ahead, FCC fuckers-revoke the station's license. I will follow Ron and Fez anywhere.

I thought church and state were supposed to be separate. Gather up these self-righteous assholes from the Catholic church and the FCC, and put them on trial for being un-American traitors and criminals.

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[blakjeezis]

I think the biggest tragedy in all of this is the apparent death of original reporting. If you read these reports from various media outlets, it's obvious that they're all getting their info from a single source. They all say the same thing, sometimes verbatim. At least some took the time to switch the words around a bit, but it's still apparent they're all quoting the same thing. What happened to investigative journalism?

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[NewYorkDragons80]

I haven't really listened to O&A since November. I didn't appreciate their constant attack on religion.

That being said, their message board is even worse than it was when I left 10 months ago. I read a thread yesterday in which one guy was torn apart by their clones when he expressed his anger towards O&A for the prank. O&A fans really have become everything they hated before they were syndicated. Now, they are no better than the Stern clones.

And if you want to talk about O&A expressing freedom of speech, that's fine, but William Donahue is entitled to freedom of speech as well.

What is grounds for having one's license revoked? If it's breaking the law, then why should O&A receive special treatment in this case?

They think this prank will make O&A more popular. I guess they should tell that to Sinead O'Connor.

What upsets me is that R&F and Ferral would suffer for something O&A did.

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[ice cream girl]

I haven't read this whole thread however, well how do I say this- Coco, I agree with you in many ways- It's just a shame that the antics of two people could result in the demise of an entire radio station- I personally feel that they went to far this time- Not b/c of what they did necessaraly, but what they did knowing full well the trouble it would cause- Anybody can go on the radio and pull a stunt that would endanger themselves and others- The true talent lies in the DJ's that push the envolope as far as they can without that result- Ron and Fez have built somewhat of an empire- How sad it would be to see them affected as a result of a horrible prank(sigh) As sad as it is though, it doesn't surprise me- They'll never learn- And now O&A are taking others down with them-

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[furie]

The sentiment seems to be the same here. O&A did this to themselves, right or wrong. I think people are over-reacting, and those same people will continue to do so in the future.

But it's distressing that Ron & Fez might be affected by this. Ferral too.

But with ICG back, I guess everything'll be ok now.

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[Bill From Yorktown]

I wont rehash what others ahve said about the affect on Ron and Fez, or wether this is right or wrong, but ponder this one: If O+A are following the letter of the law of the FCC rules, and something happens that people complain about, what grounds do the FCC have to revoke the station's license? Just wondering.

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[furie]

Bill, The FCC's responce will depend on WNEW's responce.

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[Coco]

I don't understand where pedophile priests come into the equation here. The fact is, is that O&A have no respect for the beliefs of others. And by the way, I am willing to bet that O&A's audience is well over 50% Catholic - so who are they offending? Offending one's own audience is never really smart.

They care about nobody but themselves. I am curious to see if they pay the fine for the two "victims" who went along with their prank.

The Catholic Church's attendees (let me express here - "the Catholic Church attendees") were outraged - not any pedolphile priests from what I read. The Church looks at all of its Churches as hallowed "holy" ground where Christ's presence is and where the Sacrifice of the Mass takes place.

This act was just sheer ignorance.

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[pixiestix]

Coco, I agree with you. Because
of the pedophile priests, its ok to
disrespect a catholic's place of
worship? I don't think so. Would
people think this is such a joke if
this happened at different
christian church--like Fezzie's
lutheran church, or at a temple or
a mosque? No one's place of
worship should be treated like
that. <P>

[ChrisTheCop]

I feel that the only 2 people responsible for what happened in St pat's are the 2 people who had sex in St Pat's. There were PLENTY of other places that they couldve chosen. THEY CHOSE to do it in a church. If one of the other places on the list was "East River, underwater" they probably wouldve said, "No way..I might drown..I choose not to do it there." They coulda just as easily said, "No way, I'll get arrested if i do it in st pats." Now theyre attempting to say that o and a never told em what st pats was...COME ON!!! As for Mercurio, he's been called a comedian, a producer, how about a REPORTER? He was just doing a job. He was not participating. These 2 nuts signed a release which stated their actions are their own. They will pay the price I'm sure, but o and a, and infinity, should not. I'm with the King on this..all will be well in time. I'm just thankful that R and F are on!! wooooooo!!!

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[Mxyzptlk]

I don't think people are saying its ok to have sex in a place of worship. <P> What I think they are saying is that its hypocritical to have MASSIVE OUTRAGE sparked by two consenting adults having sex in a church, while there is hush hush type sentiment when a priest slaps his yam bag into a choir boy's face. <P> Maybe more people would take this seriously if the catholic church had expressed OUTRAGE over pedophile priests first... <P> <P>

[HordeKing1]

MXYZPTLK - EXACTLY!

One is left with the feeling that the reason for this hypocritical outburst is because of the attempts to hush up the real affronts to just about any culture's morals routinely perpetrated in the church.

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[ThekahLe]

I dont understand how WNEW could have their license revoked when O and A should be the onez who get punished...not the whoLe sTaTion...it'll all be over s0on...once the media stops reporting it then it'll bLow over...liKe everything eLse...

[NewYorkDragons80]

Hordeking, don't get me wrong; I'm filled with humiliation and disgust when I hear about pedophilia within the church. That doesn't make what O&A did a good thing. Just because there are individuals within the church who do terrible things doesn't mean that they waive their right to defend themselves when people are publicly having sex (which is against the law) within their church.

I think it was Coco who said 50% of O&A's audience is Catholic. No offense, but I think that's way off. Almost nobody is defending the church on their message board. I would like to think that more than 50% of O&A's audience is Catholic, but I don't think it is so.

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[rowanprofz]

OOO OOO - my college edumacation finally pays off for once.

In regards to state and church being separate - that's totally correct. Basically our governemnt was set up not to be like Englands Circa 1700's.

Here's the deal with the FCC. A long time ago, the electromagnetic spectrum (airwaves for tv, radio, cell's, cb's) was deamed to be public property (it belonged to the citizens). Basically what that meant was that the FCC would not monitor radio broadcasts. It would only levy sanctions, fines, etc when a member of the public (in this case the church, and numerous citizens) contact the FCC to register a complaint.

Or at least that's what my professor told me.

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[Feldman]

Yeah I even saw about it on here on the DC news. For all the DC listeneres - just imagine if WNEW closed down and Ron and Fez moved live to DC and tape delay in New York. We can only hope.

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[clubberlang]

Maybe O & A can be moved to another radio station in another market and they can do the same thing there. The Catholic Church sould be happy with that. Next time O & A should have a child molesting contest so the Catholic Priests can be a part of it. <P>

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[NewYorkDragons80]

Clubberlang; funny member name and even funnier comment.

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[CreepyGyrl]

I think that the church is finally happy that a scandal in the church this time doesn't involve their priests. But quite frankly, it really wasn't O&A's fault. The couple chose the church. O&A never told them to go to the church and do it. Anyway you look at it, I highly doubt that the station will be yanked, O&A will probably be hit with a large fine, as well as the station, and with in a week or so it will all blow over.
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[JP128]

The funny thing is how the church has the balls to attempt to take the high on moral standards...what road were they taking when they were shuffling around those bastard kid touchers...as for Ron & Fez they will be fine... <P>
I must be the greatest... <P>

I do say that kicks ass.

[A.J.]

Yeah I even saw about it on here on the DC news. For all the DC listeneres - just imagine if WNEW closed down and Ron and Fez moved live to DC and tape delay in New York. We can only hope.


It was one the top stories on most of the 11PM newscasts -- basically because of the local connection of the couple. The strange thing was (and I may have missed it) was that they said O&A were on WNEW -- no mention of WJFK.

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[Vampess]

I think its all going to blow over and they will be back. I actually think the ppl who did the act should be held accountable and not wnew. I heard a bit of it on the radio and they never came right out and said

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The actual braodcast of Mercurio is the best...and if I may quote:

"Where is your God now"

priceless...Long Live Prince Paul

I do say that kicks ass.

[wyseguy]

"I thought church and state were supposed to be separate"

Yeah, and?????? What are you suggesting, any act, even criminal, that happens at a religious location should be off limits to police? How about venting some of that anger towards O&A or the suits who decided to let the whole thing effect Ron and Fez.

[A.J.]

Cathedral Sex Case to Go to Manhattan Grand Jury

Thu Aug 22,10:17 AM ET
By Jeanne King

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A man and woman accused of having sex inside St. Patrick's Cathedral in hopes of winning a radio show contest must wait until October to learn if they have been indicted by a grand jury, a judge said on Wednesday.



Loretta Lynn Harper, of Alexandria, Virginia, and Brian Florence, of Quantico, Virginia, appeared in Manhattan Criminal Court after being arrested last Thursday inside New York's famous Fifth Avenue Cathedral.

Witnesses said the couple was having sex in a vestibule, just a few feet away from worshippers observing the Feast of the Assumption.

The 35-year-old woman and 37-year-old man were trying to win a contest sponsored by the WNEW-FM afternoon talk program, "Opie and Anthony," in which the hosts challenge listeners to have sex in various public places, officials said.

As part of the contest, six couples were given a list of 54 risky locations to have sex in New York, police said. For example, a couple having sex in a church would win 25 points, while sex in Rockefeller Center was worth 30 points.

It was unclear what the winning couple would earn as a prize. In past contests, winners won trips to a beer brewery in Boston, Massachusetts.

Also arrested in the cathedral was Paul Mercurii, a radio producer who allegedly was positioned near the couple and relaying the stunt to the radio station via cell phone.

In court on Wednesday, Judge Analisa Torres ordered the couple to return on Oct. 2, when they will learn whether they have been indicted by a grand jury. They were arrested on charges of obscenity and public lewdness.

The couple's lawyer, Miranda Fritz, says they were not having sex.

The live talk show has been suspended, and the program will run repeat broadcasts indefinitely, Infinity Radio spokesman Dana McClintock said.

"They will not be doing live broadcasts," McClintock said.

The general manager and the program director for WNEW-FM also were suspended, he said. A Federal Communications Commission ( news - web sites) spokesman declined comment but said all complaints received about the matter would be reviewed.

So-called shock-jocks Gregg "Opie" Hughes and Anthony Cumia were unavailable for comment.


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[furie]

I dont understand how WNEW could have their license revoked when O and A should be the onez who get punished...not the whoLe sTaTion


Because the FCC regulates the stations, not their employee's. O&A are, in this case, a third party. The FCC can only punish WNEW directly.

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[philby]

There are also reports that the "couple" are going to sue whoever they can, claiming they thought every thing was legal since the station endorsed it and a major sponser was in studio. What a mess.

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[Coco]

[I think it was Coco who said 50% of O&A's audience is Catholic. No offense, but I think that's way off. Almost nobody is defending the church on their message board. I would like to think that more than 50% of O&A's audience is Catholic, but I don't think it is so.]

First off, not all listeners of a radio station post on their message board only a tiny fraction do - and they are usually devoted listeners. An example of this would be this board. From what I have noticed since being a member, there is usually maybe 25-50 (at most) members who post as compared to Ron and Fez's thousands of listeners.

Second, New York, New Orleans, and Boston are predominately Catholic areas where they broadcast.

Third, I wish that there was some recognition that the Catholic Church consists of millions of members not a handful of pedophile priests. It's like saying that all of Germany is anti-semitic because of Hitler, or that all of America was pro-Vietnam during that war. It's just not reality.

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[wyseguy]

broadcasting that violates the communities guidlines of decency gives the FCC a W I D E area of interpretation, however, it is hard to imagine promoting then broadcasting live sex in a filled cathedral not to be considered obscene.

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The funny thing is how the church has the balls to attempt to take the high on moral standards

it the people and the Catholic League, not "The Church" who are compIsn't laining about this sick foolish stunt?



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[wyseguy]

Coco, those who keep bringing up "pedophile priests" are just unable, or unwilling to accept that what O and A did was idiotic.

[JP128]

Wsye...let me ask you this...if this couple got caught in a subway...what do think the outcome would be??? Would the subway conductors demand for the revoking of WNEW's license...demand that O&A get fired? No...not at all. So why the hell is St. Patricks geting so much dam attention...and yes I do know that it is a church...a church that is suported by only a minority of the population...Now I am a catholic and I do not find this offensive...St. Patricks is just using this situation as a PR vehicle to draw attention away from their own

I do say that kicks ass.

[Mxyzptlk]

[quote]Coco, those who keep bringing up