Wes Anderson fans

[TomPoo]

Just wondering who the Wes Anderson fans are here on rf.net.

if you do not know who he is, he directed and co-wrote (with Owen Wilson) such great films as:

The Royal Tennembaums
Rushmore
Bottle Rocket

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[SilentSpic]

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[TomPoo]

if you don't like the topic... don't post in it dick

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[fatty]

he's my all time favorite director. the character development in his movies is beyond compare. Dignen may be the greatest character ever written.

and royal tenebaums is just the most beautifully shot movie ever. here's a little test, pause the movie at any point, and i guarantee that each frame looks like an amazing painting. he's probably the best thing going in film today.

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[TomPoo]

fatty is absolutely right

The amazing thing in Tennenbaums is the attention to detail in each scene.

For example, all the books in all the bookcases in the Tennenbaum house are alphabitized.

What I love personally is the obscurity of each character. Each has a slightly odd way about them, which makes each character so endearing.

I am thinking I like the characters in Bottle rocket the best. As Wes puts it: Dignen is a ambitious under-achiever. That is fucking genious.


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[fatty]

i can post in this thread all day.

I am thinking I like the characters in Bottle rocket the best. As Wes puts it: Dignen is a ambitious under-achiever. That is fucking genious.


max and bill murray in rushmore have an incredible relationship too, they treat each other as equals and friends even though they are at least 45 years in age apart.

also the relationship between ben stiller and gene hackman is so great in tenenbaums, him being with him in the end is the most perfect ending, the ultimate way to bring everything together.

one quick tidbit, next time you watch royal tenennbaums watch the scene where bagota is telling gene hackman about his wife's new boyfriend. gene hackman is standing in the street holding a cigarette and the smoke rises. in the background there is a hot dog vendor and the smoke is also rising, almost right next to each other.

that may be the greatest and most genius shot i have ever seen.

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[TomPoo]

it is the rationalization by the characters that intrigues me also.

in Bottle Rocket (after the car breaks down):

Dignan: What a lemon! One minute it's running like a top, and the next it's broken down on the side of the road. And I can't fix a car like this, because I don't have the tools! And even if I did have the tools I don't know if I could fix a car like this!

all his characters go through this - these completely off interpretations of each situation



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[TomPoo]

alsoi, if you notice how he shoots movies, no digitial effects. Only Camera Manipulation.

For example, in Rushmore during the the begining of each month is shown with a curtain opening and the month projected on the curtain.

That was litterally done with a curtain in fron of the camera and a slide projector lighting the curtain.

He makes it a point not to touch the film if he can help it... if he can shoot something he will instead of going back and adding stuff later and tampering with the intitial film



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[Aggie]

wow tom, you seem like a very big fan of his! i've honestly never seen any of his films. i actually rented royal tannembaums this weekend and when we played it, the tape was broken! so i couldn't see it. but now i definitley will if you and fatty both like him.

BTW: TomPoo is still.......Aggie's Choice! :)

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[TomPoo]

wow tom, you seem like a very big fan of his! i've honestly never seen any of his films. i actually rented royal tannembaums this weekend and when we played it, the tape was broken! so i couldn't see it. but now i definitley will if you and fatty both like him.

BTW: TomPoo is still.......Aggie's Choice!


yeah.. I have recently gotten into his work. I Loved Rushmore, and when Tennembaums I just became facinated with his work.

Now I have all 3 movies on DVD, and have wathched them over and over agian, with the directors commentary on so I can learn about how he went about making it.

It truly is amazing to watch him put together these movies and how careful he is to make sure everything is just right.

I highly recommend his movies. Perhaps you me and Fatty should roll one up and get together and have a Wes Anderson Marathon!!!!

FATTY... GET THE BLUNTS!!!!!!

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[RaeCHL]

I highly recommend his movies. Perhaps you me and Fatty should roll one up and get together and have a Wes Anderson Marathon!!!!

FATTY... GET THE BLUNTS!!!!!!


greatest post EVER!

[fatty]

greatest post EVER!


that was me, i'm on my computer at home and i made my sister sign up for an account to vote for my band, i guess i logged in under her.

way to ruin this awesome thread me, i couldnt' be happier.

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[Aggie]

I highly recommend his movies. Perhaps you me and Fatty should roll one up and get together and have a Wes Anderson Marathon!!!!

FATTY... GET THE BLUNTS!!!!!!
GOD I wished I lived up there! That would be great. We'll have to schedule a time when I come there to visit!

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[TomPoo]

JESUS!!!!

That was not meant for you Aggie... it was meant for fatty ...

now I am the one fucking up the thread!!!



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[TomPoo]

here, this is for me


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[TomPoo]

GOD I wished I lived up there! That would be great. We'll have to schedule a time when I come there to visit!



FATTY... GET THE CALENDER!!!!


seriously, aggie, I don't know where you are... but you need to be here, I have Wes Anderson DVD's... fatty has the herbal refreshment, and we both don't how to post... what more incentive do you need???

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[Sheeplovr]

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CO WROTE
its a team effort
I dont give all the credit to wes ITs liek a bunch of peopel just hanging out and goofen off
makeing flicks

Its a TEAM

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[EQ]

I LOVE Wes Anderson's films.

What a great idea for this weekend: I'm going to
rent 'Bottle Rocket' , and 'The Royal Tennanbaums'
again.

Tom? Fatty? Do you know what Anderson and
Owen Wilson are working on now?



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[Pootertoot]

From the LA Times:

From LA Daily News: "Bill Murray starring in a flick about a French oceanographer? Such is a project being plotted now, according to Devo co-founder Mark Mothersbaugh, who's already been commmissioned by "The Royal Tenenbaums" scribe Wes Anderson to write the score. There's no script as yet for the movie, according to Mothersbaugh, who's scored every film - including "Bottle Rocket," "Rushmore" (which also starred Murray) and "The Royal Tenenbaums" - Anderson has co-written with hot actor/writer Owen Wilson. Mothersbaugh say Anderson told him he's "been thinking about doing a movie that has only Devo music in it, and it might be this one."


At the Berlin Film Festival (February 2002), Wes stated:

"I have an idea for something but it's not written. We're very slow writers. It's set in Europe and in Mexico and it's kind of an adventure," he said. "There won't be a first draft for six to eight months... the idea is a little bit on the huge side."

The movie's going to be an adventure flick, written by Wes alone.

What hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread (I think, I don't actually read anything Fatty or TomPoo write) is the AMAZING scores found throughout the three movies they've made...it's like Mark Mothersbaugh and Wes Anderson writhe around naked in each others' record collections until the muse tells them which songs go where. The use of "A Quick One While She's Away" by The Who in "Rushmore" is quite possibly the best montage set to music in any movie ever.

And if "Ooh La La" at the end of Rushmore doesn't make your eyes water than you have no heart, my friend.

I found this on the IMDB while checking on the next project:

Each character has a musical instrument in the soundtrack that corresponds to them, i.e. when we see Margot throughout the movie, we hear a harp. Director Wes Anderson attributes this to a "Peter and the Wolf" influence.


Now I have to watch it again just for that.

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[TomPoo]

What hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread (I think, I don't actually read anything Fatty or TomPoo write) is the AMAZING scores found throughout the three movies they've made


Pooter is absolutely correct (and you have no idea how much it pains me to say that)

The music adds so much to his films.

1 scene inparticular:

in Royal Tennebaums during Richie's attempt, the song "Needle in the Hay" sets an amazing somber tone...

side note to that scene:

Wes almost cut it out of the movie, because he felt the only way to shoot that scene is to make it graphic and very serious. With that being the case, he was afraid it would derail the movie from its general light-hearted tone.



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[fatty]

in Royal Tennebaums during Richie's attempt, the song "Needle in the Hay" sets an amazing somber tone...

side note to that scene:

Wes almost cut it out of the movie, because he felt the only way to shoot that scene is to make it graphic and very serious. With that being the case, he was afraid it would derail the movie from its general light-hearted tone


thank god he didn't cut it out, that scene is amazing, and the film needed that bit of seriousness.

The use of "A Quick One While She's Away" by The Who in "Rushmore" is quite possibly the best montage set to music in any movie ever.


when he used "judy is a punk" by the ramones for the montage of gwentyh paltrow's secret life in tenenbaums i was shocked. that has always been my favorite ramones song and it is not one of their more well known ones, but that just cememted that movie into legend for me.

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[braaap]

Wes Anderson is awful. The Royal Tenenbaums was the most offensive movie ever made. If you like that movie, it's because you are a spoiled jerky who blames the world for his problems.

The Big Lebowski RULES!!!

[braaap]

If only they had paid attention to the details of the boring story. Snore-o-rama

[TomPoo]

I watched Bottle rocket again last night, I think my favorite exchange in any of the Movies is this:

Dignan: Bob Mapplethorpe, potential get-away driver: GO!!!
Bob: Well, I think there's a real air of mystery about me.
Dignan: Don't complicate it. Your number one strength is you have a car you can provide. Sell yourself! Start over. READY. GO!!!
Bob: Okay, alright. I'm a risk taker! I'm growin' an entire crop of marijuana plants in my parents back yard! I think that shows -
Dignan: Wait, you're growing an entire crop of marijuana in your back yard?
Bob: Dignan, look. I'm just not very good at this selling-yourself stuff, okay? So, I'm just gonna tell you the truth. I really wanna be a part of this team. And I'm the only one with a car.
Dignan: That's good. That's good. 'Cause that hits me right here. (touches chest)

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[fatty]

Wes Anderson is awful. The Royal Tenenbaums was the most offensive movie ever made. If you like that movie, it's because you are a spoiled jerky who blames the world for his problems


could someone please state an opinion without giving any facts to why they think that way but at the same time insult me for liking a particular film? oh you just did thanks.

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[TomPoo]

could someone please state an opinion without giving any facts to why they think that way but at the same time insult me for liking a particular film? oh you just did thanks.


Fatty,

"spoiled jerkies" like us don't get explanations...

we just get to sit in awe of how braaap learned how to post - BTW, you owe me a dollar, I told you retards can post



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[braaap]

What crappy, boring dialog. It sounds like they are attending a marketing seminar.

[braaap]

Why do I have to give a reason? Either it sucks or it doesn't.

However, I don't like the characters that populate his movies. I can't relate to them, and I find them whiny. Can someone tell me why they had like 5 copies of every parker bros. game in that fucking closet? Also, movie was a blatent rip off of Salinger (Who sucks) and THe SOund and the Fury by Faulkner. SO fuck you and your crappy, corny movies about spoiled, whiny hyper aggresive rich kids and their vintage clothes. The movie is all style and no substance. No depth, the characters are all overgrown children.

[Aggie]

I'm almost positive I'm going to like his films. I'm really looking forward to renting them now.
FATTY... GET THE CALENDER!!!!


seriously, aggie, I don't know where you are... but you need to be here, I have Wes Anderson DVD's... fatty has the herbal refreshment, and we both don't how to post... what more incentive do you need???
I don't need anymore incentive to hang out with two great guys, smoke and watch movies. But I am in Texas. So there is a small window of opportunity for this to happen!! But I want it to anyway. :)

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[TomPoo]

Why do I have to give a reason? Either it sucks or it doesn't.



if you don't give reasons you get 40 posts of:

it sucks

its great

it sucks

its ok

i liked it

its funny

good movie


get the point???

the whole reason this messgae board works is cause people here exchange there thoughts, without insulting everyone while doing it



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[TomPoo]

However, I don't like the characters that populate his movies. I can't relate to them, and I find them whiny. Can someone tell me why they had like 5 copies of every parker bros. game in that fucking closet? Also, movie was a blatent rip off of Salinger (Who sucks) and THe SOund and the Fury by Faulkner. SO fuck you and your crappy, corny movies about spoiled, whiny hyper aggresive rich kids and their vintage clothes. The movie is all style and no substance. No depth, the characters are all overgrown children.


if you notice about the characters clothing, they still where the same clothes that they wore as children (except Chas... but he still keeps the same routine clothing concept)

they are overgrown children. They all peaked at a very early age and have declined ever since.

Those are the children's greatest flaws.

But these movies are not for everyone, and I certainly understand why someone, such as yourself, wouldn't liek them.

They are fables, they are meant to be on the absurd side, and fictional.

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[braaap]

I wish more movies would persecute overgrown children rather than make them into heroes.

[fatty]

I wish more movies would persecute overgrown children rather than make them into heroes.


i dont' think this movie does this at all. they are definetley not portraying them as heroes, they are not portraying them as anything. it's just telling a story and showing the growth of each character.

i never understood that, a movie has a rape and then critics will say it glorifies it. it's not glorifying it, it's just showing it in a movie.

now if the title is rape is great, and the movie tries to explain the side of the rapist then yes it is glorifiying it. but just because a movie is about overgrown rich children it isn't saying that they are heroes, they are just saying here's a great story that just happens to be about these people. big difference.

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[BigKing]

sorry for the double post.. allmy posts get cut off for some reason..

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[BigKing]

I loved the Royal Tannenbaums. my family is a bit dysfunctional. The scene is the beginning when chaz asks his mom for money and she says "right out a check"... this happens dailyat my house. I was the only one in the theater laughing at that part cause it hit home.

I also like the sound effects they play when they are showing the book that a character has written. The sound goes with the books topic.

I wish Bill Murray had more of a role with dudly. They were rediculous. They could have made an entire movie just with Bill Murrays character and dudley

Ohh rushmore was awesome to.

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[braaap]

I understand that you have an opinion, all I'm saying is that if you like Wes Anderson, you can't have seen very many movies, and you definitely haven't read very many books.

[TomPoo]

all I'm saying is that if you like Wes Anderson, you can't have seen very many movies, and you definitely haven't read very many books.


I am glad that is all your saying.

it makes it easy for me to disagree with everything your saying

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[braaap]

That's because you're an overgrown child (read: SLACKER) he blames the world and his parents for his problems. I bet you really liked "HEathers", too.

your lack of cultural sophistication is confirmed by the fact that you even listen to these dopes. ron and fez opie and anthony, this stuff is for low rent morons...construction workers and office drones. I'm only here because my friends band won that rock and ribs and i was looking for info. then i saw the wes anderson thing and i couldn't resist.

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[fatty]

That's because you're an overgrown child (read: SLACKER) he blames the world and his parents for his problems. I bet you really liked "HEathers", too.

your lack of cultural sophistication is confirmed by the fact that you even listen to these dopes. ron and fez opie and anthony, this stuff is for low rent morons...construction workers and office drones. I'm only here because my friends band won that rock and ribs and i was looking for info. then i saw the wes anderson thing and i couldn't resist.


your ignorant thoughts and inability to respond to civilized conversation is one thing, but your judging of other people you do not know only cements what a dull mind you really have.

you bash other's opinions stating they do not read or that their liking of a radio show make them inferior, yet your comments hold no substanance, your reasoning is poor and your opinions are idiotic.

despite the fact you are obviously just posting without putting any rational thought behind what you say we still tried to discuss it with you, yet it is obvious there is no point.

i am usually very good at conversing with people who have trouble understanding new ideas but for you this is impossible. you hide behind insults and a computer and an "i am better than you" attitude, but in reality you are beneath me an i do not wish to respond to your simple mind any further.

you should watch the lion king, it's a simple tale and you could probably follow it.
no wait, that movie promotes violence within families and that kings are the ones who should rule the earth. just forget it.



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[TomPoo]

That's because you're an overgrown child (read: SLACKER) he blames the world and his parents for his problems. I bet you really liked "HEathers", too.
the fact that you draw these conclusions by a few posts in one thread just shows how much of an arrogant narrow minded prick you really are

your lack of cultural sophistication is confirmed by the fact that you even listen to these dopes. ron and fez opie and anthony, this stuff is for low rent morons...construction workers and office drones.

and I suppose you are culturally sophisticated???

maybe you are... but that is not what I or anyone else sees.

I see an cocky asshole who has nothing better to do then pick fights with people over the internet - which really goes to show how much of a tool you really are.

I'm only here because my friends band won that rock and ribs and i was looking for info. then i saw the wes anderson thing and i couldn't resist.


please sure more self composure next time.

I am done with you, now go back to your culturally sophisticated life - it sounds like its alot of fun



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[fatty]

game. set. match.
tompoo fatty world order.

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[TomPoo]

game. set. match.


easy with that low brow humor... we don't want to look any less sophisticated now... har... har... har...




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[braaap]

Hmm, isn't that what Ron and Fez is all about, though? Ignorant insults at the expense of others?

[TomPoo]

I wish Bill Murray had more of a role with dudly. They were rediculous. They could have made an entire movie just with Bill Murrays character and dudley


at first I did too... but then I thought it proabbly would have taken away from the core story.

But I absolutely agree that "Dudley's World" could and should be its own movie!!!



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[Aggie]

tompoo fatty world order
Can I be the official mascot? Or the manager? :)

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[braaap]

No there isn't. The funny thing about pointing out the shortcomings of others is the funny thing.

The bottom line is that you will have completely forgotten about this day-glo flavor of the month until the next piece of hollywood crap emerges.

[TomPoo]

Can I be the official mascot? Or the manager?


you can only be manager if you promise to where hot outfits and distract the ref when fatty wants to hit our opponent with a chair

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[Aggie]

you can only be manager if you promise to where hot outfits and distract the ref when fatty wants to hit our opponent with a chair
Of course! I got lots of short skirts and fuck me heels from my clubbing days! :)

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[braaap]

Oh, I see that your a girl, and a trashy one at that, and that your ignoring me. The funny thing about women is that, when they are pissed, they will try and ignore you. Unfortunately, they can only pretend to. Only men can truly tune people out.

[TomPoo]

Of course! I got lots of short skirts and fuck me heels from my clubbing days!


have I mentioned that I think i am falling in love with you???

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[BigKing]

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[Aggie]

Oh, I see that your a girl, and a trashy one at that, and that your ignoring me. The funny thing about women is that, when they are pissed, they will try and ignore you. Unfortunately, they can only pretend to. Only men can truly tune people out.
I am gonna be the bigger person and not insult you back. All I ask is the you go the hell away. The voting is over, you have nothing to add to this board except insults.

Thank you Fallon! :)
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[fatty]

I am gonna be the bigger person and not insult you back


well i'm not. i've had enough of this guy's stupid unintelligent bullshit. you obviously could not handle defending your useless opinions against me or tompoo so you go and insult a lady? that's some real class shithead.

i'm sorry mommy was so busy fucking everyone else that you have problems watching a movie about a dysfunctional family, but no wait, i'm not.

you're an unenlightened dick whose bitter views of the world are only surpassd by your ability to be unlikeable to all. you cannot match wits with those destroying any ideas you may have had so you go and bash a girl who has said nothing to you and a girl you would kill your father's gay lover to be with, yet you still try to act tough.

enough already, go be an asshole somewhere else. i hope this thread gets locked because i refuse to keep battling with those who are envious the mental capabilites of a 4 year old retard. you are complete nothing, and it is narrowminded ignorant fucks like you that this board doesn't need.

i would try to be the bigger man like Aggie but when my friends are insulted i don't give a fuck anymore.

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Aggie is the money!

[Aggie]

Thank you Fatty, you said it better than I ever could have. :) I'm very glad to have friends like you.

Thank you Fallon! :)
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