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The Blowhard
07-25-2002, 12:27 PM
Thursday, July 25, 2002
By Glenn Harlan Reynolds


We're at war. The people in charge of running the war say that we have to trust them: trust their integrity, and trust their judgment.


But how can we trust our government to spot terrorists when it thinks that glow sticks are items of "drug paraphernalia?"

This sounds like a joke, but it isn't. Last year, the Department of Justice and the DEA tried to prosecute concert promoters in New Orleans under the federal "crackhouse law." That law makes it a felony to maintain a building or facility for the purpose of drug consumption. Traditionally, the law has been applied to places that are, well, crack houses. But - calling glow sticks and bottled water "drug paraphernalia" - then-U.S. Attorney Eddie Jordan attempted to jail three New Orleans concert promoters by reasoning that (1) people come to raves; (2) people who come to raves sometimes use drugs; (3) concert promoters must know this (especially in light of the presence of "drug paraphernalia"); and so, (4) a rave must be an event that takes place "for the purpose of drug consumption" under the law.

The federal district court made short work of this claim, dismissing the charges and calling them a violation of the First Amendment. But that hasn't stopped our drug warriors.

Now Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., has introduced a bill (the "Reducing Americans' Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act of 2002," cutely called "the RAVE Act"), also sponsored by Sens. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and Richard Durbin, D-Ill. The bill would essentially write into the crackhouse statute the same approach already rejected by the district court in New Orleans. According to The Washington Post:

When he introduced the bill in June, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., said "most raves are havens for illicit drugs," and congressional findings submitted with the bill label as drug paraphernalia such rave mainstays as bottled water, "chill rooms" and glow sticks.

My three-year-old nephew is fond of bottled water and glow sticks, and usually needs a "chill room." Presumably Biden regards him as a dangerous criminal.

The RAVE Act should, all by itself, serve to explode Democratic claims that it's only the Republicans who pose a danger to civil liberties: nothing in the Bush administration's anti-terror plans would criminalize bottled water. Unfortunately, the RAVE Act (what is it with these cutesy acronyms, anyway?) also suggests that there's a lot of raving going on in Washington - raving lunacy.

The real story is that federal law enforcement efforts against ecstasy have proved impotent. Frustrated by this failure, they've targeted electronic music concerts ("raves") not because they're especially important targets (they're not) but because they're easy, and public, targets.

Unable to endure the continuing evidence of drug-war failure, the drug warriors are lashing out, hoping that the ignorant will be convinced that they're earning their pay. Congress is playing along because, basically, Congress isn't up to the job of riding herd on the massive drug-war bureaucracy.

The drug war has been a massive failure: a waste of money, of lives and of time. It's also been accompanied by extensive inroads on traditional American freedoms: property forfeitures, "no-knock" searches, expanded wiretap authority, and the destruction of financial privacy, to name just a few.

These are inroads that have served the agendas of bureaucrats but that haven't done anything to solve the problem that was claimed as their justification. And the drug war's combination of intrusiveness, corruption and ineptitude calls into question the government's ability to carry out the war on terrorism.

Will the drug war serve as a model for the war on terrorism? Some within the federal bureaucracy seem to think it should, and it's easy to understand why: The drug war may have been a disaster for America, but it has been a three-decade gravy train for bureaucrats. And if Congress can't ride herd on the drug war bureaucracy, it probab

PanterA
07-25-2002, 12:31 PM
Do you think any self respecting Raver is going to read that?

The words are moving man...The letter A just asked me to buy him a beer.

Wow man, your sig just asked me out.

i can hear the colors.

woo crazy man...craaazzzzyyyyyy

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Sheeplovr
07-25-2002, 12:32 PM
Ravers Beware


screw that ravers go away

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Aggie
07-25-2002, 12:50 PM
They need to add baby pacifiers to the list of drug paraphanelia. Oh, and candy necklaces too...

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I swear to God, one of these days I'll just kick this piece
of shit out the window. - Office Space

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so fuck you
and your untouchable face
fuck you
for existing in the first place
and who am i
that i should be vying for your touch
who am i
bet you can't even tell me that much

F1Gm3nT
07-25-2002, 02:55 PM
in defence to all ravers cause I used to be one and part of me still is. Alot of the shit I do is very much apreciated by the "raver". They area huge part of what of my productions, mixes & rhymes. again this is just a defense on this... the people that have posted I have nothing but love and respect for em... and still do.... I am just going to stick up for the "ravers"... cept for the candy ravers... lil fukin pusies

Do you think any self respecting Raver is going to read that?

The words are moving man...The letter A just asked me to buy him a beer.

Wow man, your sig just asked me out.

i can hear the colors.

woo crazy man...craaazzzzyyyyyy


isn't funny how I can fuck with the usual pot head with that same shit that you just said

screw that ravers go away

Kiss my ass then they will go away

They need to add baby pacifiers to the list of drug paraphanelia. Oh, and candy necklaces too...


those are candy ravers... fuck em... I never liked em anywayz... lil fuking babyz... I just like the happy hardcore... well some of it... but they really should be just all gatherd up in one party and blown up

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jafter
07-25-2002, 03:51 PM
Heckler,

I am turning into an old man. Hell let's have a real war on drugs and drop napalm on all of the coke and pot fields in south america. If you are caught smuggling drugs into the country -- no trial just a bullet in the head.

Sorry for the anger. But with the death penalty you have no repeat offenders. LOL.

We want Ron and Fez live in DC.

The real Kenny Allen
07-26-2002, 05:11 PM
My three-year-old nephew is fond of bottled water and glow sticks, and usually needs a "chill room." Presumably Biden regards him as a dangerous criminal.

Justice is blind!

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DarkHippie
07-26-2002, 07:08 PM
they can take my freedoms, they can search my property, but once they ban my bottled water . . . THEY HAVE GONE TOO FAR!!

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ToddEVF
07-26-2002, 07:54 PM
But - calling glow sticks and bottled water "drug paraphernalia"


Looks like i can get busted taking my sister out on halloween this yeah, because i give her glow sticks to see in the night, and bottled water when she's thristy. If they take those away, i might as well live during the reign of the USSR while in Russia.

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The Blowhard
07-27-2002, 06:44 AM
Welcome back Jafter.
Kids today have made drug use silly. Glow Sticks? Pacifiers? Are they kidding?
And listen to that techno-crap they call music. Pathetic.
We were lucky.
We had acid and 4 hour Hot Tuna jams.
We had the greatest drug of all time, Quaaludes.
We snorted off of chicks asses.
We also had great music like Tangerine Dream and OLD Pink Floyd.
Ecstasy? Might as well stay sober and take an Advil.

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F1Gm3nT
07-27-2002, 02:16 PM
on the whole raver topic


www.baseik.com/raversaredumb.mpg

"be like water."
- Bruce Lee
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ShelleBink
07-27-2002, 05:49 PM
I love Raves

I love Raver boys

I love all that stupid happy horse shit. I miss them too ((haven't been to one in a while))

So fuck you, it makes me happy just like wasting hours on here makes others satisfied

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