What pisses you off in movies?

[NewYorkDragons80]

I hate when I watch a movie like Die Hard and Bruce Willis will get a machine gun from somebody, then leave without it. It's frustrating just to watch.

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[Jobberific]

Lots of things, but I'l limit it to one rght now. When someone has a flashback, and they see themselves doing something. IMPOSIBBLE!!!! All flashback had by a person should be first person point of view.

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[fezident]

Hmmm... how can I write this? Alot of movies that have that huge suprise/payoff ending don't work. Specifically, THE USUAL SUSPECTS, FIGHT CLUB, and THE 6th SENSE. In F.C. you see Edward Norton hand Brad Pitt a beer and Brad Pitt takes it. Then, after Norton realizes that he's a schizophrenic, they show that same scene as flashback, but this time Brad doesn't take the beer from Norton, it just falls to floor. What the Fuck?!?! <P>
In the Usual Suspects, all the scenes are in flashback form. You clearly see Kevin Spaceys' character and Keyser Soze as two different people. Keyser has looong hair and everything while the Spacey short haired character is hiding on the dock watching Keyser kill people. 6th Sense....don't get me started. That whole

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[Tall_James]

I know this is not what you meant but I hate those people who bring their own food into the theatre in big, crinkly plastic bags that make sounds everytime they shift in their chair or reach for another Duane Reade Milk Dud.

That and when you're in a totally empty theatre and someone sits right next to/in front of you. People are sheep.

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[FMJeff]

I hate movies that are so scientifically or logically implausible they insult your intelligence. Most recently, Minority Report, where somehow through the use of eyes removed from his body, Cruise was able to find an unguarded back door to one of the most closely guarded rooms in Washington DC, then flush himself down the toilet with the most invaluabe genetic creation known to man.

Get the fuck out of here...

Not to mention the fact that NOBODY though of integrating the advertising systems with the police systems so that when a fugitive is recognized by retina scan it sends an alarm to the police who can track him. Fuck, take a lesson from Demolition Man, at least they figured out how to track people effectively.

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[Michael Fury]

I hate it when a character packs a big-ass suitcase full of stuff -- then the next scene has the actor handling an obviously empty suitcase as if it were nothing. Minor stuff, but it bugs the crap out of me for some reason.




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[Se7en]

In F.C. you see Edward Norton hand Brad Pitt a beer and Brad Pitt takes it. Then, after Norton realizes that he's a schizophrenic, they show that same scene as flashback, but this time Brad doesn't take the beer from Norton, it just falls to floor. What the Fuck?!?!

This is really such a problem for you? The guy was crazy. He was psychotic. Every time that he was supposed to be with Tyler, he was (in reality) having a psychotic break, hallucinating that it was a separate person doing these things instead of himself. So the reason you now see the beer falling is because Fincher was showing you that the reality of it all was that Tyler was NEVER there. If you saw Tyler doing anything up until that point, it was either a) the Narrator doing it, or b) just a hallucination by the Narrator.

It's not that difficult.

And that's a fantastic movie. One of my all-time favorites. Another fave is:

In the Usual Suspects, all the scenes are in flashback form. You clearly see Kevin Spaceys' character and Keyser Soze as two different people. Keyser has looong hair and everything while the Spacey short haired character is hiding on the dock watching Keyser kill people.

Again, what's so hard to understand about this? Verbal was telling the entire story to Chaz Palminteri. Only the twist was that Verbal was really Keyser. Thus, Verbal was only telling Chaz what he wanted him to hear, to ensure that no suspicion was put upon him until it was too late for Chaz to realize that his story was full of inaccuracies. If you see Keyser & Verbal as two different people, it's only because that flashback was everything Verbal was telling Chaz. What's he going to do, admit that he's Keyser? Or make up a fictional account to keep the finger pointed away from him?

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[fezident]

Hey Sev-
I hear ya. Obviously, I "get it" when movies try to throw the curve ball. What I meant (in F.C. specifically) is this:
The scene with the beer would've been "real-er" if he offered the bottle to Tyler and dropped it (thinking Tyler was about to take it from him). We, the audience, would then have had a more satisfying shock when we found out that they were the same character. We would've sat in our seats saying "Ohhh yeahhh, it all makes sense now!" The rest of the movie sorta works that way, just not that scene. Which is why I think it's inconsistent. The narrator is crazy, but WE are not. Example two; why doesn't the narrators head wound match Tylers headwound at the end. If narrator has officially recognized the distinction between himself and Tyler, he wouldn't really need the gun, but even still, the wounds should've matched. Killing them both OR letting them both "live" only seperately. I'm not bashing the whole movie, just the few scenes that son't feel right to me.
Same thing with the Usual Suspects. Obviously, I understand that Verb is trying to throw the cops off his scent. But we are seeing his (imaginary) flashbacks. The movie works except for that one scene where he's watching himself.
Basically, it's like they're showing us black and telling us it's white.
The movie THE OTHERS holds up really well. Same goes for (believe it or not) WILD THINGS w/ Neve Campell. And THE GAME with Michael Douglas. Awesome shocker endings with no holes. It's hard to do.

I know I'm nitpicking, but hey, the thread IS called "what pisses you off in movies?"

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[Rev]

For one thing, i hate how special effects keep getting replaced with CGI.

Another thing i hate is how practically always, horror flicks have happy endings.
(I highly recommend renting Session 9 to any true horror fan)

And lastly, kinda off topic in a way, but here goes...

I bug the fuck out when I'm in the theatre, and a character on the big screen lights a cigarette, and i cant!!!!
oh, the agony!!!!

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[silera]

I hate the fact that movie people always find parking directly in front of the place they're driving to.

...like that cut on the roof of your mouth that would go away if you'd stop tonguing it, but you can't.

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[Dr. Claw]

The thing that pisses me off most about the movies is how much money the mother fucking actors make.
They make millions for a couple of months work. I want to do that! maybe i'm just jealous, yeah I think thats it.

[Yerdaddy]

I'll second Jeff's complaints about Minority Report, but also add one of my own. I hate heavy-handed morality ploys in movies, and Speilberg is the worst. (This is long-winded to avoid spoilers.) He sets up Minorty Report to be an action movie built around a moral question of using this method to arrest murderers before they kill, and leads us to ask questions about free will. The problem with these kinds of movies is that the way you tell the story points about the question, but also the answer, (or the director's answer). Minority Report is probably not the best example because it was sloppy in bringing up it's moral points, and I'm sure they were lost on the action fans. But Speilberg ignored one glaring, and classic, moral question that was right there in front of us the whole movie, (or a version of it): if you could rid the world of crime, but you had to torture a child to do it, would you? The question is utilitarianism, and Speilberg, while debating pragmatism and free will, takes for granted the fact that he has people that suffer each murder in order to prevent them from happening. He never addresses that suffering except to let it continue or end according to the practicality of the system that uses them. He takes it as a given that we would/should do it if given the chance. That's one kind of heavy-handed preaching from behind the camera that I hate, and Speilberg has become the worst at it. Another one is his feel-good war movies. You don't need to create distortions of history to show the horrors and heroism of war. He lays it on so thick to boost his image and his bank account. I wish he would just go back to the days of Jaws, where he just made good movies.

The other thing I hate in movies is formulas. If I liked Fatal Attraction, I'll go rent it again. I don't need 20 years of variations on a theme that add nothing original to the concept of a stalker movie. I'm tired of paying good money to see a movie that I feel like I've seen before.

Jesus, I just bored myself with this rant. How 'bout we do a movie about a psycho message board guy who stalks Stephen Speilberg and kills his kid's white hamster? We can make it a morality tale about stopping crimes before they happen? We'll be rich!

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HERE'S WHAT PISSES ME OFF IN MOVIES: QUEEN ADAMLIA STAYING BY ANAKIN SKYWALKER'S SIDE AFTER ANAKIN CONFESSES TO HER THAT HE KILLED AN ENTRIE HERD OF TUSCAN RADIERS! THAT'S WHAT PISSES ME OFF.

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[FMJeff]

Why wouldn't she stay by his side? They were animals and deserve to die...should she cry for the raiders?


As for formulas in movies, you'll find there are formulas in all storytelling. I'm sure Fatal Attraction borrowed plot elements from literature and other films. Take the Matrix for example. The idea of toying with a fake reality has been done a hundred times over. Some would even consider it a hackneyed subject, but the film was well recieved.

As long as the story is told in an interesting manner I really don' t mind borrowing ideas from others. I don't consider any art to be truly original. There are always influences.

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[Jennitalia]

no sex scenes

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[Crickett]

1. The high price of food in movie theaters. I'm tempted to start sneaking in bags of popcorn and water bottles in my book bag.

2. The commercials before the movie. I don't mean the trailers, I mean the commercials.

"Series 4 de-atomizer."

"Yeah, that's what I'm talkin' about."

"Noisy Cricket"

[phixion]

the chik always running while jason or mike myers is walking yet he's still right behind her im at the point where i just stand up and yell
"run bitch run!!!"

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[Katylina]

I hate sitting in those uncomfortable seats where the arms don't move up. How am I supposed to put my head in his lap with that damn arm in the way. It's not like my head can fit through the hole... wait- what are we talking about again?

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[Yerdaddy]

As long as the story is told in an interesting manner I really don' t mind borrowing ideas from others. I don't consider any art to be truly original. There are always influences.
I agree. I guess what I'm bitter about is that most of the time Hollywood doesn't add anything new to the old formulas. Momento, the Matrix, Sexy Beast... were all good variations on previous themes.

I'm also pissed off when I can't get a seat next to Katylina.

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[JerryTaker]

The movie works except for that one scene where he's watching himself.


Ah! but look again... Verbal is never shown behind the ropes, and If you look closely, as he's limping towards them, he never really makes it to the ropes, but the scene just pans as if he did....

(I love director's commentaries)

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[fiestygal]

Perfect example was the movie "Sweet Novmber". It was a pretty romantic movie and it was all mushy and YES ill admit i cried..PUSSY I AM...But in the end the ending left you with..AND THEN...I HATE that...the ending soooo ruined that movie...they could have done alot more with that- and i don't really watch chick flicks BUT I got sucked into the Preview for that movie plus my 2 friends wanted to see it

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[fezident]

Hey JerryT.
I'm gonna check that out again. To be honest, I hope I'm wrong! I haven't seen the movie in a couple of years, but for some reason, I remember that the camera showed us (the audience) Verbals eyes peering out from between the tires (or ropes or whatever he was hiding in) and he's watching Keyser go on the killing spree. Maybe I got it all wrong. But in my own defense; if they mention it on the commentary track, then I'm probably not the only person who had a problem with it.
Shit now I wanna go to Blockbuster but I'm stuck at work!!!
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[ShelleBink]

when those two chicks would NOT shut up during fuckin star wars: attack of the clon...oh. that was me and amy :)

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[lleeder]

I don't like when movies don't wrap up the main point of the movie so they leave the door open for a sequel. This always happens in cheap horror movies where at the last second of the movie the villian or alien still is around. Its like I jut sat watch these people do sometinmg and they failed in the end anyway.

[Alice S. Fuzzybutt]

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I hear ya!

I gave up on movies long ago. I'll wait til I can rent them or get them on pay-per-view. The theatre experience has been ruined by idiots on their cell phones who think they're far superior to us pions who came to be entertained, people who bring infants to a 10pm show, and people who talk through the entire movie.

Besides that, paying close to $10 for all that is just an insult.

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[GtarBoy]

i hate that all people in movies never do normal things such as eat or go to the bathroom. Are people in movies some kind of people who do not have to meat the daily needs of normal people?

In the movie theatre I hate people who leave their cell phones on and parents explaining to their children (very loudly) about whats going on in the movie.

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[Pootertoot]

I'm going to back up the complaint about movies whose payoff just doesn't work. Although I disagree with the initial examples, I'll add my own, both belonging to my most hated category of movie: Successful Chick Flicks.

The Others: They're Ghosts Who Don't Know They're Ghosts, But Are Around Other Ghosts Who Know They're Ghosts, But They Don't Tell The Other Unaware Ghosts That They're Ghosts Because If They Did, There Wouldn't Be A Two Hour Movie.

Piece of shit.

What Lies Beneath: Not only does this movie break a man's spirit by showing us the aged Harrison Ford at his worst, Turkey Waddle wobbling about as this shitfest muddles along, but it offers us a retarded ghost: she turns on the computer, she starts a program, and just types her initials repeatedly. How about start MSWord and just type in what you want, douchebag?

As for the Matrix, I'm one of the few who do not like this movie at all. I've only seen it twice, so I don't claim to be an expert on its plotholes, but could someone explain this to me: If Keanu Reeves was such a problem to begin with, why not just shut off his life support? That would've taken care of him.

Oh, and why even bother creating the world to begin with? If they're harvesting brain power or whatever, just keep the humans in a REM state?

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