Why did wrestling have to start SUCKING??

[Death Metal Moe]

I'm sorry, but I haven't watched in like 5 months! IT BLOWS! I haven't been in this forum in about that long, but I just thought I'd ask to see if anyone else thinks it SUCKS too.

TOO MANY GUYS!
And now I have to wait to see certian guys? FUCK THAT! How about a show with all the GOOD WWF guy I LIKE, and a show with all the WCW guys who FUCKING BLOW another day.

The WWF for SO LONG talked about how much more HIP they were, and all the "ATTITUDE" They had that WCW did not. NOW, all these guys they said sucked, and DID, are major draws! FUCK THAT! They used to poke fun at Ric Flair and the NWO, NOW, it's a major part of the show?

Sorry, I'm out.

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[Se7en]

Somewhere in between the ignorant ranting about WCW, you have a good point.

I'm out too.

After the following 3 things that happened on tonight's RAW, I'm gonna give up the WWF. Or WWE. Whatever the fuck it wants to call itself:

1. The Booker T face turn, which was done (no surprise) to kill ALL of his heat (Hey, he's a face now! But oh wait, he just got punked out harder than he ever has since he's been in the promotion. Thank you, HBK, for sacrificing yet another soul to get you & your buddies over).

2. Michaels blatant insult towards the Rock. Note to Shawn - while I'm sure Rocky's not trying to steal your beloved Hunter's "spotlight", he is on the verge of becoming a major motion picture star making around 10 million a picture. Meanwhile, you're a washed up, shattered shell of your former self. Who's still hated. Who gets the last laugh there?

3. Vince McMahon, Evil Owner of the WWF. Version #5897246976.

Fuck you, WWF. I'm tired of the shit.

It's a good goddamn thing I have plenty of puro & other wrestling tapes stored up, cause that's what I'm gonna be counting on to get me through the wasteland. Wake me when they pull their heads out of their asses.

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[Lulu]

well, it keeps me entertained. but then agian, so do shiny objects.

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[Fallon]

Looks like it's not just the fans who are sick of the product. 1wrestling.com is reporting that Steve Austin left Raw tonight and flew home.

by Dave Scherer:
"Steve Austin left the Raw taping in Atlanta earlier today and will not be on tonight's show. From what I have heard, without clearing it with anyone in management, he booked a ticket home for himself and Debra and left Atlanta today. Originally, he was scheduled to face Brock Lesnar on tonight's show. I am not sure what the finish was supposed to be, but from where I stand, it was too early to do that match no matter who they planned to put over. The whole show had to be rewritten and Lesnar will now wrestle Bubba Ray Dudley.

From what I heard, no one (read Vince McMahon or Raw coordinator Brian Gerwertz) communicated with Austin as to what he was going to do on Raw tonight until Jim Ross called him yesterday. Austin then chose to walk out and go home today. It's been no secret that Austin has been less than happy with the WWE's direction lately."

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Seven, I agree with everything accept the booker t comment. Personally I think Booker neededa face turn. The fans have been trying to cheer for him for a while now, and that just doesn't work for a heel. I think this face turn will do him a lot of good. Other than that, you are one hundred percent right.

AJW...All Jobber Wrestling...All jobbers, all the time.

[Earth2RON]

wrestling went down the drain,because there is no WCW or ECW just a bunch of guys doing the same shyt every week.

Shorty i wanna lap dance on my tongue
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all I have to say is this...business is business and as long as people g oto the shows and watch them, it will just keep on going

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[Fallon]

Sexy Bastard, television ratings and live attendance is down big time.

Y2J's WWF debut speech is so on the mark for todays WWE:

A new era is what this once proud and profitable company sorely needs, what was once a captivating, trend setting program has now detireated into cliche, lets be honest boring snooze-fest that is in dire need of a night in shining armor...

Now lets go over the facts, television ratings, downward spiral, pay-per-view buy-rates, plumuting... and reactions from the live crowds, complete utter silence and I know why you're silent, you're silent because you're embaressed to be here...

And the reason why you're embaressed is because of the steady stream of uninteresting, un-talented, mediocre sports entertainers, you're forced to cheer for and care for. No wonder you're not cheering, you could care less about every single idiot in that dressing room...

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[fatty]

i like it right now. sure it's not the greatest ever, but it's still the best thing on monday's and thursdays.

rvd vs. guerrero was money. brock vs. bubba ray was pretty good, i just love watchign brock wrestle.

booker t needed to go face, people want to love him and it will make his later heel turn that much better.

i'm glad hbk is back, i thought it was a good promo and it made the n.w.o. more badass.

i'm looking forward to the ppv, i guess i understand where you guys are coming from but i'll keep watching. cause once it starts getting real good again i'll be able to watch it from the beginning this time, not just kinda hop on like i did during austin's first run.

this was all the same stuff people were saying in 96, but it got better than it ever was. i say relax and smoke a blunt before watching it, it'll make it that much better.

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[Carbon Freeze]

does X-Pac have blackmail material on everyone in the wwe ? that's the only reason this guy keeps appearing. put him on one of the shows that no one watches like Heat. he brings absolutely nothing to the table.

[Se7en]

Seven, I agree with everything accept the booker t comment. Personally I think Booker neededa face turn. The fans have been trying to cheer for him for a while now, and that just doesn't work for a heel. I think this face turn will do him a lot of good. Other than that, you are one hundred percent right.

I'm not disagreeing that Booker T needs or deserves to be a face. He should get super over, and fill a nice spot at the top of the RAW roster.

But he's going to be feuding not with the nWo, but the Cliq. Given their track record, and the power they are now wielding again (more on that in a second), I'm 100% convinced that they will do everything to utterly bury Booker T in his feud with them.

Let me quote Scott Keith now - I know he's not very popular, but he has some smart things to say about Raw last night:

The Bottom Line: Austin walks out, Vince puts himself back on both shows, The Clique is 4/5 reunited and already making little references to themselves that no one gets.it's bad signs all around.

Absolutely correct.

Steve Austin has walked out, and all signs point to Vince being on the verge of pulling another SS 97 and destroying what's left of Austin's career.

Vince, of course, in the meantime thinks that the key to ratings success is to have himself on both shows again.

And that HBK promo, which some of you loved, instilled a great deal of fear in me. He took a blatant, personal, and highly political shot at the Rock - who, rumors persisted, has not got along with HHH, since Rock actually came out (standing up for the other wrestlers?) in interviews and stated that he disliked how certain wrestlers would go to management to try and screw over others in the company (I'm thinking Rock was referring to HHH's screwing around with Jericho, who is legit friends with Rock in real life). What's worse is the fact that word is coming out now that Michaels was given permission to make that insult.

I want to see someone defend that. That statement was so incredibly inside that only us smart fans got it. Plus, since the nWo is a RAW only faction, there's no chance of them feuding with the Smackdown-drafted Rock. So why make the comment? Simple - it was a person, politically-motivated insult from the Cliq to the Rock. And Vince himself gave the permission for the infighting.

Add to all of that the fact that X-Pac allegedly pulled a power play and refused to work Heat (his tantrum, according to rumors, had some individuals feeling he should have been fired on the spot), and I have to agree with Keith - very, very bad signs all around.

Of course, if you liked the old days when the Cliq was in control and effectively bankrupting the WWF (there was a reason WCW was winning the war at that point in time), maybe this means nothing to you.

To me, it means it's time for me to shut down on the WWF. I think I'll take Austin's position and sit out until things get better....if they ever do.

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[CYYYFYYY]

I can't stand these I HATE wrestling posts.... Hey NJ
if you have not watching wrestling in 5 months
maybe you should not post here...

Other GREAT COMMENTS..... Why don;t they only
show the wrestlers you like......

I got news for you Wrestling is not for you... Maybe
some guys you dislike others like.... and if they had
your attitude Rocky Malvia would be no where since
no one liked him to begin with. Helmsely was not
too popular either when he first came out so i
guess he would not be in the WWF if it was up to
you either. I like seeing characters build like Bob
Holly even if they don't become super stars.

As for you Shawn Michles haters... I don't give a
damn what he does back stage all I know was
when he and Helmsely where DX those were the
best skits ever and as for him bashing the Rock...
WHO CARES! The Rock is a Big Boy and I am sure
he won't cry. Heck he may have sold out and who
knows if he will ever return. Oh yea... Micheles
asked for permission before punking out the Rock
un like When the Rock Bashed Nash without
anyones permission but I couldn't care less these
are all grown ups let the bashing BEGIN!!!!!

If Austin wants to cry because for the firs time in
years he is not the main event then SEE YA!!! We
don't need certain wrestlers saying do this or I
quit... If Nash or Micheles did this all you guys would
say are that they are selfish bastards!!!!

Yea I hate Mark Henry But I do like the WWF So I
will keep on watching it and complain on certain
things but complain

David the Franchize
Everyone Loves CYYYFYYY
My name is CYYYFYYY and I like Ping Pong

[McNabbShouldDie]

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he said just aboot everything i would have said if i had the time. <P>
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[DarkHippie]

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[Lulu]

i guess i missed alot when i missed raw yesterday
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[KornbreadKid]

when did wrestling start sucking i got 2 words for ya, and they aint dx's suck it...HULK HOGAN, and it's said that Pukamania has to be back again in the 21st century...

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!!

[Death Metal Moe]

Hey CYYYFYYY, it's just my opinion. It's just as valid as yours. I catch small pieces of the show here and there, and my buddy still watches whole shows on occasion.

And you know what I'm sick of. A form of entertainment I USED to never miss going down the toilet. It's not focused anymore. It's an abortion. And they need to drop the WCW shit all together! Cut that tumor off.

So as a former fan, I feel it my right to say whatever the Fuck I want about the WWF. They got me for about a year and a half worth of Pay-Per-Views, and like 2 years of my Monday nights.
So thank Vince for taking on guys you USED to make fun of, and destroying a great form of entertainment.

EVIL REIGNS!!!

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[hoodooguru]

Well what did you expect first we get all the stench that Bischoff stank up WCW with, then then second coming of the bald old turd. <P>
VINCE I IMPLORE YOU HIRE MICK FOLEY AS YOUR BOOKER NOW!!!! <P>

HOO DOO GURU
YEH

[Death Metal Moe]

More Proof it SUCKS!

Ron and Fez, LONG TIME wrestling fans have OPENLY began DISSING wrestling the past few months.

Then, tonight, Ron says he's thinking of not even renting the upcoming Pay Per View.

I respect their opinion on wrestling only because they have been such long time fans. Their knowledge, especially Fez's proves this. They can name wrestlers and matches back to the 70's.

So with people like that jumping off the sinking ship, I don't feel so weird telling the WWF to go Fuck Off.

Oh, and Good Job scaring Austin off, Assholes. The ONE Constanly cool and funny character, and you FUCK with his stories, and make him walk out. You can only shit on someone for so long.

Just stop beating your wife, Douche Bag.

EVIL REIGNS!!!

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[Se7en]

More Proof it SUCKS!
Ron and Fez, LONG TIME wrestling fans have OPENLY began DISSING wrestling the past few months......

I respect their opinion on wrestling only because they have been such long time fans.


And they need to drop the WCW shit all together! Cut that tumor off.

I was somewhat surprised - and happy - to see R&F giving Austin some understanding about walking away. He's getting POUNDED on the net these days. I can understand doing it because he's a goddamn wife-beating asshole.....but as for him walking away from the product, I still support Austin. The WWF fucked up. He just got fed up with it all and left.

But here's where I disagree with R&F (and Moe too). Someone PLEASE explain to me, in detail, how the WCW talent has caused the downfall of the WWF.

If you're talking about how the WWF is hurting because of a lack of competition, that's one thing.

If you blaming it on the wrestlers themselves, you're mistaken and wrong.

If you want to put the blame on someone like Hogan, or Scott Hall, or Kevin Nash....okay, hey, maybe you have a point and you're right on that level.

But guys like Lance Storm, Booker T, Kidman, Shane Helms, Jamie Knoble, DDP, Kanyon, Chuck Palumbo, Mike Awesome, etc.......they have NOT, in any way, contributed to the downfall of the WWF. In any way. If anything, several of them are BETTER all-around than the talent that the WWF has produced.

The problem lies mainly in the writing, the creative side of things. That's why the Alliance angle didn't work. That's why the nWo hasn't worked. That's why Jericho's title reign was essentially a failure, because Steph & Hunter wanted to have an on-air ego stroke.

Don't blame WCW, blame the WWF. It's their fucking fault that the promotion is in the mess that it's in.

Don't be shoving the blame on poor Lance Storm or Booker T, cause they don't deserve it.

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[A.J.]

3. Vince McMahon, Evil Owner of the WWF. Version #5897246976.


"Some say he's the Devil himself"

-- Jim Ross on Vince McMahon

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[Death Metal Moe]

I'll try to express my opinions to you Seven.

For years, we were all told by the WWF how inferior to them WCW was. And after watching one Nitro, you saw they were right. There was a time that I checked some of it out, and it SUCKED!

NOW, just because Vince buys them out, they're great? NO! Their wrestling has ALWAYS been sub-par! It's just not as clean, and energetic as the WWF has been.

And their mere prescence presents a problem! Too many guys is BAD! Too many stories to worry about makes the shows seem crappy. Also, writers who worried about lets say 20 story lines NOW have to worry about 40. Just an estimation. But they can't keep pumping out quality. So EVERY story suffers in the mix.

And, a lot of the guys who went over there from the WWF in the first place were getting old, and it seems might have been trouble makers. And now they're back. perfect example of both- Hogan.

But in the end, it IS just my opinion. If you disagree, then that's your opinion. I hope that fans who STILL like the show continue to like it. I'm just done with it.

EVIL REIGNS!!!

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[Death Metal Moe]

And yes, I resurected this post for my latest point.

STEVE IS GONE! One of the ONLY good wrestlers left, and now's he's out? Great.

Gee, I guess all the crappy WCW stars will make up for Austin.

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[Se7en]

For years, we were all told by the WWF how inferior to them WCW was.

Propaganda and indoctrination.

And after watching one Nitro, you saw they were right. There was a time that I checked some of it out, and it SUCKED!

To be fair, this is all very subjective. To some people, ECW was the best thing ever. In my opinion, it had it's own charm, but most of it was garbage wrestling. It depends upon what you're into as a wrestling fan. I'm big on workrate, which is why I will take a match involving a WCW star such as Booker T any day over a match involving Bubba Ray Dudley.

NOW, just because Vince buys them out, they're great? NO! Their wrestling has ALWAYS been sub-par!

Again, it's all subjective. But you've inadvertently brought up the biggest problem Vince had when he bought WCW - after years of running them down, he was left with an audience that didn't want to except the WCW wrestlers....no matter how talented they were. This is a *small* part of why the Alliance angle didn't work. The biggest part being that Vince jobbed everyone out to talentless heaps like Bradshaw.

It's just not as clean, and energetic as the WWF has been.

Now THIS I take umbrage with. The WWF style is many things, but clean & energetic it is not. For all Jim Ross' bullshit about the WWF not being "ballet", they run a VERY slow, very safe, ultra-cautious style which, IMO, is not terribly good at all. Look at William Regal. Most people think he sucks in the ring, despite the fact that he could wrestle circle around at least half the locker room. If he could wrestle his style, he'd impress a lot more people....but that won't happen, because his style is very stiff. As he likes to say, he hits people hard, but in safe places.

And their mere prescence presents a problem! Too many guys is BAD! Too many stories to worry about makes the shows seem crappy. Also, writers who worried about lets say 20 story lines NOW have to worry about 40. Just an estimation. But they can't keep pumping out quality. So EVERY story suffers in the mix.

Again, I disagree with you here. The whole purpose of the roster split was to divide up the roster, so as to give more guys exposure and to create a better product and better storylines. And what's happened? You still have the same shitty writing. It's not the fault of the locker room. It has more to do with the idiots on the writing / booking committee. There is a MOUNTAIN of evidence that the WWF's slide into mediocrity (or worse) began as soon as Stephanie McMahon was named head writer. If you have writers, and the can't come up with good storylines for the guys that you have (however many that is, if it's 4 guys or 40), than there's a very simple solution to that problem - FIRE the writers, and hire people who CAN get the job done right.

And, a lot of the guys who went over there from the WWF in the first place were getting old, and it seems might have been trouble makers. And now they're back. perfect example of both- Hogan.

This I can't disagree with, but you have to realize that at this point, you're only referring to about 4 guys. Hogan (who's impact upon the WWE is GREATLY exaggerated....you have far, far more to fear from HHH or Nash than you do from Hogan politicking in the back), Nash (who has and always will be a troublemaker), Flair (who usually keeps himself out of politics and is at best a semi-active wrestler) and DDP (who is retired now). You could at one point include Hall in that list, but he's already gone. The majority of the old guys around now belong to the WWE.

As for Steve Austin, I'm very sad to see him go, and I raised a lot of hell blaming the WWF for driving him away. But ultimately, it WAS Steve who made the decision to leave. In many ways....most ways....I agree with his decision. After all, at his age and with his health, he doesn't have to take the shit anymore, so why not leave? But ultimately, even though I believe the WWF is responsible for

[McNabbShouldDie]

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For years, we were all told by the WWF how inferior to them WCW was. And after watching one Nitro, you saw they were right. There was a time that I checked some of it out, and it SUCKED! <P> NOW, just because Vince buys them out, they're great? NO! Their wrestling has ALWAYS been sub-par! It's just not as clean, and energetic as the WWF has been. <P> You honestly beleive that WWF's WRESTLING matches were better then the WCW's? You HAVE TO BE kidding me. While the WWF was doing the same old, tiring, stupid stipulations matches between Austin-Vince the WCW was coming out with fresh 4 star cruiserweight matches every monday night AND every PPV. The WWF NEVER had better wrestling then WCW from back in the early 90's-2000. <P> As far as angles go ill have to agree that WWF ususally had better angles but thats because WCW never had the "great" creative team that WWF had.


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[Jennitalia]

it didnt start sucking, it always did :)

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[Jobberific]

You honestly beleive that WWF's WRESTLING matches were better then the WCW's? You HAVE TO BE kidding me. While the WWF was doing the same old, tiring, stupid stipulations matches between Austin-Vince the WCW was coming out with fresh 4 star cruiserweight matches every monday night AND every PPV.


While I agree the cruiserweights were great, you gotta remeber, after that CW match, they had nothing else. Particularly towards the end.

"DANCE MONKEYS!!!! DANCE FOR OUR PLEASURE!!!"

[Se7en]

While I agree the cruiserweights were great, you gotta remeber, after that CW match, they had nothing else. Particularly towards the end.

I disagree.

Like McNabb said, the WWF was better at "sportz entertainment", since that's the bastard hybrid that Vince created. WCW was always better at actual wrestling.

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[Jobberific]

I don't disagree that on a whole,WCW was better at actual wrestlig. But specifically in there final days, what else good was there going on except for the crusierweight division? I mean really, give an example?

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[IAMTHEGAME]

Who ever doesnt like wrestling get the f*@k out of our goddam thread!

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[Death Metal Moe]

Hey IAMTHEGAYME.

I am an Ex-fan quite disappointed in the FAILURE of this form of entertainment to keep up it's high standards that it USED to pride itself on. Plus, I am a RonFez.net member, so I will post wherever the Fuck I feel like it.

My opinion is that the WWF blows now. And the Cruiser Weights ALWAYS SUCKED!! Just a lit of ballet! Moves that don't even LOOK like they're supposed to hurt. Rediculoudly long strings of moves that relly never impressed me. Go scratch, Cruisers.

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[Death Metal Moe]

Oh, and I was wrong. I caught the skit Booker T. and Gold Dust did with the Crocadile Hunter type skit, and Booker T is actually funny.

So Vince bought a whole company, and 1 guy is worth anything.

Bravo, WCW.

EVIL REIGNS!!!

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[Neo]

I used to watch wrestling growing up in the late 80's to the present and i think that Vince just abused his power and went over the limit. He tried to hard to make it good. The story lines are repetitive and drawn out, they have a bunch of old shlongs wrestling (that used to cool), and it's annoying with the 2 shows a week. I mean come on, ya miss one your screwed. I think they should bring back the old undertaker, they REALLY screwed up his character, but hey this only my opinion and i think it stinks. <P>

"You Only Can See What Your Mind Can Handle..."

[The Missing Link]

the Rock sucks

[shellcreatives]

Wrestling has sucked for a lot longer then you thought... It takes awhile to notice the gradual decline. The late 80's, early 90's was good, if not great, then it got a little worst, and then plummeted. For example; decided to make the #1 contendership to the WWF title up for grabs at the Royal Rumble put out a lot of nobodies... That was a long while ago...

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[Cybersoldier]

It was going to happen, after ECW and WCW falling to the waste sides, WWE was bound to suck because no other company is threatening them for fans or money

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