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PanterA
04-01-2002, 09:16 PM
Tonights Raw was really good. You can tell the WWF is trying to bring back the attitude to Raw. More cursing, more nudity, more hardcore style matches. I think Vince is finally listening to Hayman and taking the whole ECW extreme angle. I think the WWF will get more raunchy and more extreme to bring back the ratings.
Looks like it's going to get fun. If Hayman gets his own stable, which looks that way with him bringing out Brok. That guy is huge.
But who is looking forward to the Stone Cold VS Ric Flair era? Do you think they are going to work it like the Vince VS Stone Cold? I'm not sure i want to see Stone Cold with the belt anytime soon.
Also the HHH vs Undertaker. ehhhh seems boring. You think they are going to bring a 3rd person into this match? Maybe make it a hell in the cell? Seems like they need to add some kind of stipulation to give this match any legs.
What do you guys think?
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TheGameHHH
04-01-2002, 10:47 PM
I didn't watch RAW, but from what I read I thought it was a good show. I just wish the Undertaker would die soon though.
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Se7en
04-02-2002, 04:41 AM
I dug Booker T / RVD, and I loved the Eddy runin. After that, the show just lost me. It was like every other RAW, only with worse talent. When goddamn Bossman is on the show and Kane is main-eventing against X-Pac, there's a problem. It felt like I was back in 1999, and that's not a good thing.
Looks like Smackdown will be the show to watch, unless they send a load of talent over to RAW.
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fatty
04-02-2002, 07:39 AM
booker t RVD was fantastic. bikini match was good. hardy's getting killed by lesnar was A+. i don't think austin will feud w/ flair, he was just stunning him for the sake of stunning him.
i know gamehhh hates undertaker but i'm a big fan of this feud. i think the undertaker is the most intimidating guy in the wwf, and he is a true veteran. you can notice how HHH had no respect for jericho and it came across in his promos. against the undertaker however, he has a lot more respect and it almost seemed like he was a little scared last night.
i think the angle w/ the undertaker being a complete punk is great. his career is winding down but a feud w/ HHH will be great, there match at wrestlemania last year was fantastic and i'm hoping they could repeat. now if they can only make the match at backlash a hell in a cell or even a..... CASKET MATCH! man i could go for one of those. i think it will be awesome and i think wrestling is about to get interesting again.
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The show wasn't bad. I think that someone from smackdown should get put in the hhh/taker match saying that Vince doesn't see it's fair that someone from his brand didn't have the opportunity at the title.
I also think that if this brand seperation runs for a while, they should do something with the secondary champions. Possibly suspend the intercontinental and european titles and make a Raw Champion and a Smackdown champion, especially since you have the "Undisputed Champ" to top them both.
With the hardcore title being 24/7, cross brand matches aren't a problem. Someone just needs to appear with a ref from their brand and game on.
I still don't understand what they are doing with the Light Heavyweight/Cruiserweight championships. Xpac dissapears with the WWF Light Heavyweight about 7 months ago leaving Tajiri with the WCW Cruserweight title. After Survivor Series they just call tajiri the Cruserweight Champ, but he's still walking around with a WCW belt. Are they ever going to have him wrestle cruiserweights anyway?
That's enough of a rant.
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PanterA
04-02-2002, 11:04 AM
Look for a big push on Buh Buh with the hardcore belt. They are already calling him the new king of hardcore.
Wrestling really seems to be getting fun again.
I also think the WCW cruiserweight belt looks better then the WWF lightweight belt.
That Undisputed belt looks great! I like it alot better then the 2 belts. Jericho pulled off the 2 belts but HHH always seemed like the 2 belts were a distraction.
I dont like Hosp's idea with the 2 champions. I like the IC belt in place, and RVD vs Eddy is going to be a tremendous feud. Both those guys have great ring skills and I think it's going to be a great match to watch.
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fatty
04-02-2002, 11:14 AM
pantera, we gotta get some brews and some weed and watch wrestling sometime. we pretty much feel the same way about the wwf and are having the best time right now.
you are so right about the 2 belts, jericho looked money with them but HHH just seemed like it was one too many. i guess that just proves my theory that jericho was the better champion.
and will HHH ever defend that belt against someone besides stephanie already?
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raw last night was great. i loved the new sets and music.
the booker t vs. rvd match was good. and eddie looked great last night. although i could have done without seeing the mullet.
the raven vs. bubba ray match was also very good. the hardcore division is starting to get some real credibaly back.
hardys vs. mr. perfect and boss man was ok. i would have much rather seen brock beat up boos man and mr. perfect, but only because i'm a big hardy fan.
the kane vs. x-pac match wasn't all that good. but i did like the bradshaw run-in.
stone cold and flair could be much better than the stone cold and vince fued. thoughi really doubt that it will be. flair should turn heel and try to take after vince. austin should dump debrah. she is just annoing, and i could do whitout her.
PanterA
04-02-2002, 12:22 PM
Sounds good fatty.
I also want to add that they need to do something with NWO. X-Pac looks silly with them and i hate the way Xpac walks. He looks like a jack ass. NWO needs a feud, and Kane needs a better match then Xpac.
Kane vs Brok now that can be intresting.
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Se7en
04-02-2002, 01:08 PM
you can notice how HHH had no respect for jericho and it came across in his promos.
More truthful words were never spoken. Fuck YOU, HHH. I'm gonna start some glass ceiling rumors about you on the internet.
I guess they gave the Hardcore belt to Bubba to give some sort of relevance to the Dudleys split. I still say that title is a joke.
I'm not overly fond of the new Undisputed title.....it's not as good as the old WCW belt. THAT looked like a real championship. Compared to the WCW title, the new belt looks like the Cruizerweight strap.
Brock killing the Hardys = good. Brock killing the Hardys AND Lita = much more gooder. I'd like to see that sloppy bitch try and rana HIM.
Vince proves that even when there's a promise that a McMahon won't show, they WILL, to yet again ruin things with another boring promo segment.
The nWo are painfully irrelevant now. Way to waste a couple million, Vince. People complain about Jeff Jarrett, but I guarantee that he would be putting out better matches than either Hall or Nash OR X-Pac.
Bradshaw should NEVER be allowed in or near a main event, ever.
That's all the bitching I have today.
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fatty
04-02-2002, 01:54 PM
the nwo needs a leader. an hbk, a rock turned heel, a big poppa pump. someone huge to lead them. the outsiders need the tag straps, x-pac needs the cruiserweight or european belt, and then the main guy goes for the heavyweight. and whoever they add, that has to be it. 4 guys, reeking havoc, holding the gold. it's the only way the n.w.o. will work.
and brock vs. kane would be AWESOME. they could hype the hell out of that.
and i don't mind the hardcore belt. i think it used to be better but if you're going to have two mid-carders beat each other up you might as well make it hardcore and have a belt involved.
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Earth2RON
04-02-2002, 02:26 PM
i saw the opening and i thought the new sound and theme was pretty dame good.i fell asleep and dint see anithing after booker t/rvd had one of the best matches ive seen in a long time.xpac's 15 minutes is and he needs to hit the road.i want to see more of molly holly cause she has a ghetto booty. <P>
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lleeder
04-02-2002, 06:06 PM
I thought raw was good but whats the deal with the main event. Those two could barely main event a Jakked let alone a Raw. At the end what was the deal with the Bradshaw run in . Kane pretty much had the situation handled. At least make the guy seem in danger then have someone save his ass. <P>
RF Godfather
04-03-2002, 06:10 PM
Solid show and I obviously liked the new era, set, music, etc.
Who didn't realize that Austin was joining RAW if you saw the intro video, so damn obvious, at least 9 instances of Austin in it regarless it was April Fools Day!
RVD and Booker T almost resembled an RVD vs Lynn match... the new Benoit vs Booker T feud for the WWF, I can't wait! But why is Booker T the "Valedictorian of Violence", JR?
Eddy looked as good as ever and the frog splash was off the charts!
The rest of the show was ok.
Bubba the New King of Hardcore.... Raven already lost the belt?!? WTF!
Brock Lesnar just keeps pulling a Goldberg, Awesome, Kurrgan... his push is unbelievable.
WHAT ABOUT RAVEN, STORM OR DREAMER, dammit?!?
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did anyone realize that Crash Holly is back on TV because of this split?
RF Godfather
04-04-2002, 04:35 AM
did anyone realize that Crash Holly is back on TV because of this split?
I did take notice and realized that the only ones from the draft that were not present in some capacity were Lita for some reason, D-Lo, Goldust, Dreamer, Stasiak and Credible.
Crash, the 100 time Hardcore Champion is on RAW and well he'll make it fun again but hopefully they will stick to making that title Extreme and not some worthless crap that Vince pawned off on Mankind back in the day.
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I agree about the look of the new Undisputed belt. It looked like the WCW US Championship from about 6 years ago. It has no where near the presence of what the WCW belt has and even the last WWF belt looked better. It even looked small in Ric Flair's hands.
I was just thinking of something to do with the titles that would make an impact on both shows. As far as can tell there are no heavyweight titles on smackdown. Especially if HHH is feuding with someone on Raw.
Brok looks like a monster, but he better actually have a match soon and look impressive otherwise it all means dick.
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