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erinmoran
03-04-2002, 06:42 AM
WASHINGTON (March 4) - At least six Americans were killed and an unknown number wounded when their helicopter was shot down over eastern Afghanistan, Pentagon officials said Monday.

''We have some small numbers of U.S. troops killed,'' in the downing of the MH-47 Chinook helicopter, which occurred early Sunday night Washington time, Pentagon spokeswoman Victoria Clarke said Monday.

It was not clear how many of the soldiers died in the crash and how many were killed by small-arms fire in fighting that broke out after the crash, Clarke said.

She said military officials did not yet know what type of enemy fire brought down the helicopter, nor whether a search-and-rescue operation had been completed.

The helicopter, normally used to ferry supplies or troops, was downed during an assault on suspected al-Qaida and Taliban fighters that the Pentagon says were regrouping south of Gardez.

It was the first American aircraft taken down by enemy fire in the war, following accidental crashes of other craft since the anti-terror campaign opened in October.

The incident came as the largest coalition force assembled so far in the campaign - some 1,500 from America, Afghanistan and at least six other nations - engaged an estimated several hundred al-Qaida and Taliban in intense fire fights backed by airstrikes.

Clarke called the fighting ''the largest military operation we have been engaged in thus far and in combat, the most loss of life.''

About three dozen U.S. soldiers have been injured since the operation began Friday, she said.

More than 1,000 U.S. troops are involved in the operation against opposing forces believed to be mostly al-Qaida, she said.

''There's been some very fierce resistance on the part of al-Qaida,'' Clarke said. ''These are the ones who have clearly chosen to fight it out.''

Before the downing of the helicopter, the casualty toll of the operation started Friday stood at one American and three Afghans killed and an undisclosed number injured.

Previously, the most deadly incident for Americans in the war came Jan. 9 when six Marines were killed in the crash of a tanker plane into a mountain in Pakistan.

In the latest fighting, U.S. Chinook helicopters were ferrying in supplies to American and other troops in the hills following the start of the coalition ground attack in the area. In addition to allied Afghan fighters and U.S. Special Forces, troops from Australia, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany and Norway were participating.

The assault was the largest joint U.S.-Afghan military operation of the terrorism war. Pro-U.S. Afghan troops approached the hide-outs from three directions to isolate the fighters and prevent them from escaping.

Safi Ullah, a member of the Gardez town council, or shura, said the first stage of the offensive was designed to cut the road from Shah-e-Kot to trap al-Qaida and Taliban forces in the mountains. He said the plan also involved setting up checkpoints to prevent them from getting out.

Pakistan has closed its border with eastern Afghanistan and deployed extra army units and members of the Khasadar tribal militia to catch any who try to cross the frontier and filter into its Northwest Frontier Province.

AP-NY-03-04-02 1026EST

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impactplayer2k1
03-04-2002, 10:30 AM
Since it came from the AP, then it must be true!

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irishkb
03-04-2002, 10:35 AM
nice O&A reference impact... damn it... this little bastards are really in for it now... man i hope this isn't going to bring more of our boys over there... shit my brother got his warning that he might be going over.. mother fucker..... god damn terrorist.. why can't they just blow there own kind away like the irish do...

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AngelAmy
03-04-2002, 10:39 AM
nice O&A reference impact

is that those Dopey and Aintfunny people that impact has been telling me about
do they talk about country?

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missileman
03-04-2002, 10:42 AM
Send out your prayers for the guys and gals overseas. They do what they do for the love of country.

As to the other side.....

May God have mercy on their FUCKING souls.

For we as sure hell will not.

If we catch em alive, we should drill a hole in their heads, and skull fuck each and every one.

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Doogie
03-04-2002, 10:58 AM
why can't they just blow there own kind away like the irish do


Well if you have noticed that since Sept 11th we havent heard a peep from the IRA cause they are making radical disbanding movements...

As for this incident, it is unfortunate, and the bastards that caused should and will pay. But lets not forget one thing...this is war. There will be casualties, the only left for us to do is to pray fro the victims and there families...

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Captain Rooster
03-04-2002, 12:24 PM
The war seems to be moving into a new phase. The ground war in Afghanistan has begun. The infantry from the 101st Airborne are engaged and a massive, deliberate attack.

Don't be lulled into complacency that this war is over on the homefront either. We need to be ever vigilant as we move into the future.


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Heavy
03-04-2002, 03:07 PM
Hey LT did you notice any holes in this story like I did? When a CH-47 goes out it usually has more than 9 people in it. Anyway this story reminds me off something that happened at FT Campbell before I got there. 2 Chopers colided during a trainging exercise that the families were invited to watch. 6 died. Anyway these People die in these various Aircaft accidents all the time. It seemed like every month we were hearing about something else, like the marines, I think 19 of them died in a C-140 just during a normal flight. Expect 90% of our deaths over there to be from the birds going down, either by enemy fire or just malfunctions

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Captain Rooster
03-04-2002, 04:09 PM
johneewadd, first of all, great post. I did think that the original story did have holes in it, but I have heard nw information on the battle.

The Chinook was forced to land under fire and deployed at least 1 SF team. The soldiers that deployed from the helicopter came under intense fire and 7 soldiers were killed.

I do not believe that are many false stories coming out of this war. I believe that Gen. Tommy Franks, and the Sec. of Def have been honest with the US citizens.

Thanks for the great post man. IM me anytime.

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Heavy
03-04-2002, 05:48 PM
That raises another question. Why was an SF team being transported in a shithook? Maybe they were'nt going directly on a mission. I need to watch the news and get to the bottom of this mess. Thanks for the props LT

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